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  1. stayhighlowe stayhighlowe is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 12:21pm)

    pokerstars Game #28842228988: Tournament #165726085, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/05/31 18:31:04 ET
    Table '165726085 2915' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: GM_ANDRADE (104263 in chips)
    Seat 2: lharrison (97954 in chips)
    Seat 3: Dr.Dude (34598 in chips)
    Seat 4: Wyatt Wizard (59422 in chips)
    Seat 5: ravi_ram (57412 in chips)
    Seat 6: PPeeter (115364 in chips)
    Seat 7: tommyk (108072 in chips)
    Seat 8: Tarrafa8 (4614 in chips)
    Seat 9: funkypota (29417 in chips)
    GM_ANDRADE: posts the ante 300
    lharrison: posts the ante 300
    Dr.Dude: posts the ante 300
    Wyatt Wizard: posts the ante 300
    ravi_ram: posts the ante 300
    PPeeter: posts the ante 300
    tommyk: posts the ante 300
    Tarrafa8: posts the ante 300
    funkypota: posts the ante 300
    Dr.Dude: posts small blind 1500
    Wyatt Wizard: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to lharrison [Js Jd]
    ravi_ram: folds
    PPeeter: folds
    tommyk: folds
    Tarrafa8: raises 1314 to 4314 and is all-in
    funkypota: folds
    GM_ANDRADE: raises 4686 to 9000
    lharrison:
  2. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 1:56pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    Definitely more interesting IMO. Any reads?

    In my view calling is not so bad here since you have position - but i'm guessing loads of people will disagree :). But depending on your read shoving may be the better play.

    And again - i cannot stress this enough - what the f* do I know... ;)
  3. stayhighlowe stayhighlowe is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 2:20pm) in reply to DutchCourage

    not really any reads, but its a $10 mtt so there was been minimal 3-betting etc
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 3:52pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    id pry 3bet call shove. like 30-34k to induce.
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 4:16pm) in reply to woertink

    do you think jacks are ahead of his range, when we get 100k in the middle here?
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 10:26pm) in reply to stayhighlowe

    I don't mind flatting here, the iso-raise is pretty weak and you have position with an ok chip stack. I don't think a 3-bet jam is out of the question here either though.
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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 5:42am) in reply to stayhighlowe

    hmmmmmmm, tough one, i think if you come over the top about 20/25k that would be a good way to judge the strengh of GM_ANDRADEs hand if he flat calls/reraises, but i dont think just calling would be bad here, seeing a cheap flop and having position over the guy....
  8. stayhighlowe stayhighlowe is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 10:29am) in reply to armymedik1

    my thoughts on the hand are that if we raise he is folding out all the hands we have beat and is only coming along with hands that have us crushed and maybe aks type hand. i would hate to just fold a hand as strong as jacks in this spot, and we do have enough chips that i can set min if he does have us beat. so i deciede to flat a see a flop and hopefully win a huge pot vs the other chip leader... here how it worked out

    pokerstars Game #28842228988: Tournament #165726085, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/05/31 18:31:04 ET
    Table '165726085 2915' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: GM_ANDRADE (104263 in chips)
    Seat 2: lharrison (97954 in chips)
    Seat 3: Dr.Dude (34598 in chips)
    Seat 4: Wyatt Wizard (59422 in chips)
    Seat 5: ravi_ram (57412 in chips)
    Seat 6: PPeeter (115364 in chips)
    Seat 7: tommyk (108072 in chips)
    Seat 8: Tarrafa8 (4614 in chips)
    Seat 9: funkypota (29417 in chips)
    GM_ANDRADE: posts the ante 300
    lharrison: posts the ante 300
    Dr.Dude: posts the ante 300
    Wyatt Wizard: posts the ante 300
    ravi_ram: posts the ante 300
    PPeeter: posts the ante 300
    tommyk: posts the ante 300
    Tarrafa8: posts the ante 300
    funkypota: posts the ante 300
    Dr.Dude: posts small blind 1500
    Wyatt Wizard: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to lharrison [Js Jd]
    ravi_ram: folds
    PPeeter: folds
    tommyk: folds
    Tarrafa8: raises 1314 to 4314 and is all-in
    funkypota: folds
    GM_ANDRADE: raises 4686 to 9000
    lharrison: calls 9000
    Dr.Dude: folds
    Wyatt Wizard: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jh 2c 6c]
    GM_ANDRADE: checks
    lharrison: checks
    *** TURN *** [Jh 2c 6c] [2d]
    GM_ANDRADE: bets 15000
    lharrison: calls 15000
    *** RIVER *** [Jh 2c 6c 2d] [2s]
    GM_ANDRADE: bets 21000
    lharrison: raises 52654 to 73654 and is all-in
    GM_ANDRADE: calls 52654
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    lharrison: shows [Js Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Deuces)
    GM_ANDRADE: shows [Ah Ac] (a full house, Deuces full of Aces)
    lharrison collected 186680 from side pot
    Tarrafa8: shows [Kc 5h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
    lharrison collected 20142 from main pot
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  9. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jun 3rd, 2009 (6/3/2009 11:09am) in reply to stayhighlowe

    Wauw - that is just about the perfect scenario for jacks v rockets.

    I agree with the play, as said in first reply, exactly for this. Change the J on the flop in an A and you can let it go fairly easy without much harm done.
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