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3 Bet sizing mistakes, hand from 20k FT last night

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  1. TpocketT TpocketT is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 6:28pm)

    I was pretty disgusted with myself last night after busting out 8th in the $11 20k on PS. Here is my crippling hand, I feel like I made a major mistake with my 3 bet size and my call. Background wise, the 4 bet jammer had been playing snug, I don't have his #s from my HUD anymore but he had def not been getting out of line. UTG opener had been opening a lot of pots so far on his big stack. I think my bet size and call were kinda heat of the moment mistakes. I'm thinking I should have made it like 100k and folded to a bb jam? I mean really doesn't his range have to be QQ+, AK here given position, and my image/sizing? I had a very tight image built up, and although I was on the short stack side, we were still deep enough to not have to get this in pre. IDK though, just seemed like a hard fold to make. Thoughts anyone, other than how much I suck? Am I being results oriented or is his true range as tight as I think now?

    pokerstars Game #47680833436: Tournament #324010582, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIX (9000/18000) - 2010/08/03 22:21:52 ET
    Table '324010582 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: HoCz (992599 in chips)
    Seat 2: chipstakk22 (1548989 in chips)
    Seat 4: acidsmile (699632 in chips)
    Seat 5: akgirl70 (851639 in chips)
    Seat 6: TpocketT (611037 in chips)
    Seat 7: ragenut (901739 in chips)
    Seat 8: Waldcda $ (520649 in chips)
    Seat 9: S7h7a7man (1277716 in chips)
    HoCz: posts the ante 2250
    chipstakk22: posts the ante 2250
    acidsmile: posts the ante 2250
    akgirl70: posts the ante 2250
    TpocketT: posts the ante 2250
    ragenut: posts the ante 2250
    Waldcda $: posts the ante 2250
    S7h7a7man: posts the ante 2250
    ragenut: posts small blind 9000
    Waldcda $: posts big blind 18000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TpocketT [Qh Qd]
    S7h7a7man: raises 29000 to 47000
    HoCz: folds
    chipstakk22: folds
    acidsmile: folds
    akgirl70: folds
    TpocketT: raises 100000 to 147000
    ragenut: folds
    Waldcda $: raises 371399 to 518399 and is all-in
    S7h7a7man: folds
    TpocketT: calls 371399
    *** FLOP *** [Th Kc 7h]
    *** TURN *** [Th Kc 7h] [Kd]
    *** RIVER *** [Th Kc 7h Kd] [3c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Waldcda $: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    TpocketT: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
    Waldcda $ collected 1110798 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1110798 | Rake 0
    Board [Th Kc 7h Kd 3c]
    Seat 1: HoCz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: chipstakk22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: acidsmile folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: akgirl70 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: TpocketT (button) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
    Seat 7: ragenut (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Waldcda $ (big blind) showed [As Ah] and won (1110798) with two pair, Aces and Kings
    Edited By: TpocketT Aug 4th, 2010 at 06:29 PM
  2. Whatshoulditbe Whatshoulditbe is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 6:33pm) in reply to TpocketT

    I'd have to blv AK/JJ will get it in there and i'm not folding QQ...

    ur 3b sizing is on the big size, it could be 20kish less
     
  3. Appst08 Appst08 is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 7:06pm) in reply to Whatshoulditbe

    whether or not your 3-bet sizing is huge (which it is)

    The same result is going to happen. UL, gg
     
  4. The Lab Rat The Lab Rat is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 7:17pm) in reply to Whatshoulditbe

    3 bet sizing way too big in position. Make it like 12.2k maybe smaller. As played lean slightly towards calling. Range should be like QQ/JJ+ AK for him
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  5. TpocketT TpocketT is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 7:33pm) in reply to The Lab Rat

    Thanks for responses, I feel a little better about it knowing you guys go broke there as well, haha. I guess I'm just frustrated after FT'ing 2 massive fields 2 days in a row and taking 8th both times. Ohhhh low stakes MTTs...
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  6. SjCp0kerStar SjCp0kerStar is offline

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    Aug 4th, 2010 (8/4/2010 8:26pm) in reply to TpocketT

    I feel your pain bud, been there many times... but just as long as you remember what you did right you'll get there again, pretty sick cooler tho gg
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