No reads in particular. I remember 4 bettor timebank it pretty hard, then shove.

What should I do?

Full Tilt Poker Game #10010752943: $10,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (75896018), Table 27 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:26:30 ET - 2009/01/12
Seat 1: doze09 (68,651)
Seat 2: emailecs (87,451)
Seat 3: tpcubed (43,633)
Seat 5: MoneyMike029 (77,511)
Seat 6: Jennnyy19 (66,082)
doze09 antes 200
emailecs antes 200
tpcubed antes 200
MoneyMike029 antes 200
Jennnyy19 antes 200
emailecs posts the small blind of 800
tpcubed posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jennnyy19 [Ac Kd]
MoneyMike029 folds
Jennnyy19 has 15 seconds left to act
Jennnyy19 raises to 3,850
doze09 folds
emailecs has 15 seconds left to act
emailecs raises to 14,150
tpcubed has 15 seconds left to act
tpcubed has requested TIME
tpcubed raises to 43,433, and is all in

i fold. if the 4better folded id prolly 4bet allin or call but that move just looks too strong and he never shows up with AQ there.

so ur either racing or dominated. also you have to worry about the 3bettor, why shouldnt he have a monster.

dont burn ur stack away with AK. foldaments

really tough spot without reads. the hands u wanna see are AQ/AJ and these are both pretty unlikely with the action before u. most likely flipping or has the same hand. i prefer a fold but calling is OK.

Flipping at best - and at least one of your outs is probably in the 3- or 4-better's hands. Dont know if I could find it at the table, but I think this is a fold.

you only have 3.8k invested - its a fold for me.

Unless the table action has been bonkers and you have fairly good reads - i think it is a fold - but it sucks -esp when they both flip AQ!

Damn....

Brain says fold as I'm sitting here NOT playing in the game but if I was at the table playing, I'm not sure I'd have the ballz to fold (even thou I suspect some of my aces are in other hands).

 

Originally Posted by downbylaw11

my buddy heckled me for folding in this spot yesterday with AK, though it was at a full table, my raise was utg, the 3 bet was from utg +1 and was very small, and then someone 4 bet. i quickly folded since i didnt feel like losing half my stack with 40 people left and they tabled Kk and QQ. sometimes guys just have to have it. in this situation, it definitely felt like one of them had at least JJ+

sorry to hijack thread but just curious downbylaw, whats ur play if folded back to u if it was only 3bet small by utg+1 and action folded back to u??? smoothcall or 4bet?

 

Originally Posted by saukendar

So you raised from cutoff & the button folded, SB went for a re-steal & the BB pushed - he has a hand (maybe) but enough to make AKo a good fold with the 14,150 3-bet in the pot? I don't know, I think you have to re-push to drive out the SB - risk 5th for a real crack at first. Unless the SB comes along and takes you out you'll still have some FE left even if you don't beat the BB.

my 2 cents

agree that 5handed AK is nearly unfoldable, but your "make a run at first" is irrelevant as i am nearly 100% sure this is a 6max tourney and the OP is deep but not at the FT yet

I dont think I can fold this. I had been active, SB could easily just be trying to resteal - although his raise looks kind of committing. Basically I snapped it, b/c the majority of the time I have over 33% equity and there could potenitally be a lot of dead money.

I'll post the results in a bit

You can't fold this 5 handed on your stack everr, just cause your flipping almost always doesn't mean you shouldn't get it in here.

 

Originally Posted by TheGfactor

You can't fold this 5 handed on your stack everr, just cause your flipping almost always doesn't mean you shouldn't get it in here.

Ya I know this, it was more for discussion. I called and was v happy with 40% equity

Full Tilt Poker Game #10010752943: $10,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (75896018), Table 27 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:26:30 ET - 2009/01/12
Seat 1: doze09 (68,651)
Seat 2: emailecs (87,451)
Seat 3: tpcubed (43,633)
Seat 5: MoneyMike029 (77,511)
Seat 6: Jennnyy19 (66,082)
doze09 antes 200
emailecs antes 200
tpcubed antes 200
MoneyMike029 antes 200
Jennnyy19 antes 200
emailecs posts the small blind of 800
tpcubed posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jennnyy19 [Ac Kd]
MoneyMike029 folds
Jennnyy19 has 15 seconds left to act
Jennnyy19 raises to 3,850
doze09 folds
emailecs has 15 seconds left to act
emailecs raises to 14,150
tpcubed has 15 seconds left to act
tpcubed has requested TIME
tpcubed raises to 43,433, and is all in
Jennnyy19 raises to 65,882, and is all in
emailecs calls 51,732
Jennnyy19 shows [Ac Kd]
emailecs shows [Qd Qh]
tpcubed shows [As Qc]
*** FLOP *** [Js 5s 5h]
*** TURN *** [Js 5s 5h] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [Js 5s 5h 2s] [9h]
Jennnyy19 shows a pair of Fives
emailecs shows two pair, Queens and Fives
emailecs wins the side pot (44,898) with two pair, Queens and Fives
tpcubed shows a pair of Fives
emailecs wins the main pot (131,299) with two pair, Queens and Fives
MoneyMike029: nh sir
tpcubed stands up
Jennnyy19 stands up
doze09 stands up
emailecs stands up
MoneyMike029 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 176,197 Main pot 131,299. Side pot 44,898. | Rake 0
Board: [Js 5s 5h 2s 9h]
Seat 1: doze09 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: emailecs (small blind) showed [Qd Qh] and won (176,197) with two pair, Queens and Fives
Seat 3: tpcubed (big blind) showed [As Qc] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: MoneyMike029 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Jennnyy19 showed [Ac Kd] and lost with a pair of Fives