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3 handed at FT of $3r rush, looking at a min 4 bet..

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  1. ealltheway ealltheway is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:12pm)

    Final table of the $3 rush re-buy on FTP. $42,000 prize pool. ~20 million chips in play, divided almost equally amongst the final 3. Blinds 50/100k.

    I pick up QQ as the big blind with roughly 6 million chips.

    Button raises to 280k.
    Small blind folds.
    I re-raise to 780k.
    Button takes about a minute, and min re-raises to 1.3 mil or so.

    What's your play and why?
  2. emptypockets emptypockets is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:15pm) in reply to ealltheway

    a HH would make this much easier
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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:18pm) in reply to ealltheway

    shove. you should still get calls from 88-jj, AK
  4. ealltheway ealltheway is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:20pm) in reply to emptypockets

    Unfortunately I don't have the HH. I thought I did a pretty good job explaining the situation though ;/

    And fwiw, the button raiser had not been overly aggressive by any means. The occasional steal, but folding on the button wasn't rare for him.
    Edited By: ealltheway Oct 22nd, 2010 at 07:22 PM
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  5. xxgt465xx xxgt465xx is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:24pm) in reply to ealltheway

    Shove and be happy about it. AA or KK would be unlucky.
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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 7:28pm) in reply to xxgt465xx

    shove because i'm never folding qq 3 handed preflop in a mtt
  7. OfxAxRevolution OfxAxRevolution is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 9:25pm) in reply to rainmanrcp

    ya, shove, def not folding that 3handed
  8. vikings_db vikings_db is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 9:45pm) in reply to OfxAxRevolution

    You didn't chop so I'm assuming ur playin for the win and folding QQ 3 handed is def not playin ftw so that being said I jam there is already approx 2.2 mil in the middle and even if u assign him a really nitty range of 99+ AQ+ ur still way above his range dn exact figures but ballpark ur probs 60+ percent (guesstimate) so def ship it in
  9. JRoth15 JRoth15 is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 10:02pm) in reply to vikings_db

    Tough break running into AA/KK...not a chance in hell I'm ever folding QQ 3-handed.

    Are you looking for the "min 5-bet, fold to a shove" advice?? You know you're getting it in 100% of the time here.
  10. pikappraider78 pikappraider78 is offline

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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 11:25pm) in reply to JRoth15

    i like to click it back here id like mn 5bet to try to induce a shove with a lower pair if we straight hove he may fold like 99
     
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    Oct 22nd, 2010 (10/22/2010 11:33pm) in reply to pikappraider78

     
    Originally Posted by pikappraider78 View Post

    i like to click it back here id like mn 5bet to try to induce a shove with a lower pair if we straight hove he may fold like 99


    he's way more likely to click call with 99 than he is to 6b a min 5b at the final table of an mtt...ducy
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  12. ealltheway ealltheway is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 12:46am) in reply to Gags30

    Aight, thanks for the replies...

    I re-raised all in, he called with KK...and he held obviously.

    I knew he had a huge hand. The final table was super nitty... not much 3-betting at all. I didn't really think villain would 4 bet me with anything other than AK,AA,KK...

    I considered folding, but then said to myself, 'we're only 3 handed, can i really lay this down? i've already made a nice profit, if he has AA/KK i'll just chalk it up as a cooler.'

    If I folded, I would've had more than enough chips left to still fight for the win.

    Is a fold THAT bad? I know shoving all-in isn't bad with QQ, 3-handed, but how about folding here?

    Folding QQ 3-handed= automatic leak?

    5-bet all-in with QQ, running into KK/AA= automatic cooler, and not a leak?
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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 2:03am) in reply to ealltheway

    no way in hell i fold here
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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 2:35am) in reply to ealltheway

     
    Originally Posted by ealltheway View Post

    I knew he had a huge hand. The final table was super nitty... not much 3-betting at all. I didn't really think villain would 4 bet me with anything other than AK,AA,KK...


    if this is true, then you probably shouldn't have 3b int he first place and just have flat...
    Edited By: Gags30 Oct 23rd, 2010 at 02:35 AM
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