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3 pre-flop decisions deep in the $8r 2x turbo on Stars

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  1. nassander nassander is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 12:09am)

    Here are 3 hands from an $8 rebuy 2x turbo on Stars.

    They are common spots in these games.

    Hands go from about 40 to 20 remaining.

    In particular, I am least sure about number 2.

    1) Villain has open shoved in ep the last few orbits so I am confident I am in a flip. On one hand it is a good opportunity since it is folded to me and the blinds appear tight. Question is really how much of my stack should I call off in this spot, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5 etc?

    pokerstars Hand #83225486835: Tournament #582829236, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (8000/16000) - 2012/07/13 6:04:26 AEST [2012/07/12 16:04:26 ET]
    Table '582829236 58' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 2: Pr0fiteer (219731 in chips)
    Seat 3: Grar579 (242880 in chips)
    Seat 4: archibaldAA (17972 in chips)
    Seat 5: nassander (323933 in chips)
    Seat 6: Clarkson7 (312862 in chips)
    Seat 7: AplE1337 (307119 in chips)
    Seat 8: PokerGentIy (368992 in chips)
    Seat 9: avagom8 (100362 in chips)
    Pr0fiteer: posts the ante 1600
    Grar579: posts the ante 1600
    archibaldAA: posts the ante 1600
    nassander: posts the ante 1600
    Clarkson7: posts the ante 1600
    AplE1337: posts the ante 1600
    PokerGentIy: posts the ante 1600
    avagom8: posts the ante 1600
    Clarkson7: posts small blind 8000
    AplE1337: posts big blind 16000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nassander [3c 3h]
    PokerGentIy: folds
    avagom8: raises 82762 to 98762 and is all-in
    Pr0fiteer: folds
    Grar579: folds
    archibaldAA: folds
    nassander: ???

    2) Hijack seemed like a good spot to raise this weak ace, the bb is the big stack and shoves. Call, fold, fold pre, shove pre in that spot?

    PokerStars Hand #83226652866: Tournament #582829236, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (15000/30000) - 2012/07/13 6:23:38 AEST [2012/07/12 16:23:38 ET]
    Table '582829236 58' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Chernukha.S (1411298 in chips)
    Seat 2: Wombatox (631590 in chips)
    Seat 3: Grar579 (94680 in chips)
    Seat 4: 888GOGO888 (76358 in chips)
    Seat 5: nassander (416641 in chips)
    Seat 7: AplE1337 (337250 in chips)
    Seat 8: PokerGentIy (328664 in chips)
    Seat 9: Woroguuu (420908 in chips)
    Chernukha.S: posts the ante 3000
    Wombatox: posts the ante 3000
    Grar579: posts the ante 3000
    888GOGO888: posts the ante 3000
    nassander: posts the ante 3000
    AplE1337: posts the ante 3000
    PokerGentIy: posts the ante 3000
    Woroguuu: posts the ante 3000
    Woroguuu: posts small blind 15000
    Chernukha.S: posts big blind 30000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nassander [Ac 6s]
    Wombatox: folds
    Grar579 has timed out
    Grar579: folds
    Grar579 is sitting out
    888GOGO888: folds
    Grar579 has returned
    nassander: raises 30000 to 60000
    AplE1337: folds
    PokerGentIy: folds
    Woroguuu: folds
    Chernukha.S: raises 1348298 to 1408298 and is all-in
    nassander: ???

    3) Just moved to the table, wedged between two bigger stacks, it's the second hand. Raise size feels strong, not sure I will get a better spot given the blinds.

    PokerStars Hand #83226821569: Tournament #582829236, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (20000/40000) - 2012/07/13 6:26:28 AEST [2012/07/12 16:26:28 ET]
    Table '582829236 86' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: wahib abu (1097385 in chips)
    Seat 2: Gììx (967567 in chips)
    Seat 3: Addy1212 (804672 in chips)
    Seat 4: nassander (437641 in chips)
    Seat 5: sextant7 (539528 in chips)
    Seat 6: okemp (157459 in chips)
    Seat 8: AplE1337 (282250 in chips)
    Seat 9: ProXimaVez (521809 in chips)
    wahib abu: posts the ante 4000
    Gììx: posts the ante 4000
    Addy1212: posts the ante 4000
    nassander: posts the ante 4000
    sextant7: posts the ante 4000
    okemp: posts the ante 4000
    AplE1337: posts the ante 4000
    ProXimaVez: posts the ante 4000
    AplE1337: posts small blind 20000
    ProXimaVez: posts big blind 40000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to nassander [Kd Ac]
    wahib abu: folds
    Gììx: folds
    Addy1212: raises 100000 to 140000
    Nassander: ???
  2. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 12:28am) in reply to nassander

    Hand 1 is close but personally Im calling off here in a turbo.

    Hand 2 I would dump, too many hands ahead of you and with ~14 BBs you can find a better spot. Dont mind the steal attempt tho.

    Hand 3 is the quickest snap-shove in the history of online poker
  3. EricWRX EricWRX is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 1:26am) in reply to Charlamaigne

    hand one is a fold, 33 plays really bad here..you can't be confident you're flipping vs someone shoving utg+1.

    hand 2 is an open fold with your stack...AT+ to shove. I hate r/f with under 15bb(really hate it with A6o from the CO). As played fold to shove.

    hand 3 is an easy shove
     
  4. P0LarAcE P0LarAcE is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 9:02am) in reply to EricWRX

    1--- UTG +1 shortstack shove, even if he's lite you cant be too happy with 3s here...but i personally would shove anyways and hope to get the blinds out of the way...if i lose i still have 240k

    2---shove or fold...

    3---shove high five monitor
     
  5. luckierno7 luckierno7 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 12:49pm) in reply to P0LarAcE

    hand 1 i fold
    hand 2 i open fold , as played raise fold
    hand 3 snap gii even if there s half the table all in in front of me
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  6. David Whats David Whats is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 1:22pm) in reply to luckierno7

    1. I fold. it's a coin flip at best. Prefer to keep my stack with the fold equity currently have.
    2. Open shove. Raise folding is terra bad with 14bb stack. Open fold is only other option I think.
    3. Easy shove.
  7. bazingaking bazingaking is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2012 (7/13/2012 2:15pm) in reply to David Whats

    Hand 1: Fold because villain raised in early position so his range is tighter and you still have players to act behind. You'll basically never be ahead and you don't want to flip 1/3 of your stack.

    Hand 2: I open shove here because you are very short stacked (almost 5M), and A6 is good enough. Remember it is also a turbo, so you have to play faster than you normally would in other tournaments, and therefore should be looking to shove. I will never never never want to open 15% of my stack only to fold to a re-raise. But as played you have to fold to the re-raise (I think).

    Hand 3: No need to post. Almost 4M because the blinds are rising fast (a turbo) and you get AK. Don't even think about it, although villain's open could look strong, AK is a premium hand and you are so short stacked you have to shove.
  8. nassander nassander is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2012 (7/14/2012 7:51am) in reply to bazingaking

    Thanks guys.

    Pretty much agree with you all.

    1. Fold.
    2. Shove or fold is ok. I think I need to shove lighter in these turbos as I get blinded out to easily when down to the last 20 and need to make the ft with a stack or it's not worth it.
    3. Easy reshove.
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