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  1. gbmantis gbmantis is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:35am)

    gonna post a few hands from the session

    hand 1.

    pokerstars Game #3696055909: Hold'em Limit ($30/$60) - 2006/01/20 - 07:33:21 (ET)
    Table 'Corvus' Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: kalibershanD ($6375.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: msen612 ($754 in chips)
    Seat 4: gbmantis ($531 in chips)
    Seat 5: t soprano ($1701 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dirty Doc1 ($610 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fiks ($882 in chips)
    kalibershanD: posts small blind $15
    msen612: posts big blind $30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gbmantis [Jh Ah]
    gbmantis: raises $30 to $60
    t soprano: folds
    Dirty Doc1: folds
    Fiks: folds
    kalibershanD: calls $45
    msen612: calls $30
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Qh Kh]
    kalibershanD: bets $30
    msen612: raises $30 to $60
    gbmantis: raises $30 to $90
    kalibershanD: calls $60
    msen612: raises $30 to $120
    Betting is capped
    gbmantis: calls $30
    kalibershanD: calls $30
    *** TURN *** [Kd Qh Kh] [3h]
    kalibershanD: checks
    msen612: checks
    gbmantis: bets $60
    kalibershanD: calls $60
    msen612: calls $60
    *** RIVER *** [Kd Qh Kh 3h] [4d]
    kalibershanD: checks
    msen612: checks
    gbmantis: bets $60
    kalibershanD: raises $60 to $120
    msen612: folds
    gbmantis: calls $60
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    kalibershanD: shows [Qd 9h] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
    gbmantis: shows [Jh Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
    gbmantis collected $957 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $960 | Rake $3
    Board [Kd Qh Kh 3h 4d]
    Seat 1: kalibershanD (small blind) showed [Qd 9h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
    Seat 3: msen612 (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 4: gbmantis showed [Jh Ah] and won ($957) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 5: t soprano folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Dirty Doc1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Fiks (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    not sure if i can 3 bet that river or not...i almost did but probably wouldnt have got call anyways
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  2. gbmantis gbmantis is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:36am) in reply to gbmantis

    another interesting hand.....i was trying to value bet the river here....well that sure backfired.

    pokerstars Game #3696047369: Hold'em Limit ($30/$60) - 2006/01/20 - 07:29:45 (ET)
    Table 'Corvus' Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: kalibershanD ($6468.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: msen612 ($613 in chips)
    Seat 4: gbmantis ($276 in chips)
    Seat 5: t soprano ($1836 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dirty Doc1 ($508 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fiks ($570 in chips)
    Fiks: posts small blind $15
    kalibershanD: posts big blind $30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gbmantis [Ac Kd]
    msen612: raises $30 to $60
    gbmantis: raises $30 to $90
    t soprano: folds
    Dirty Doc1: calls $90
    Fiks: folds
    kalibershanD: folds
    msen612: calls $30
    *** FLOP *** [2h 3d 8c]
    msen612: checks
    gbmantis: bets $30
    Dirty Doc1: calls $30
    msen612: calls $30
    *** TURN *** [2h 3d 8c] [Jd]
    msen612: checks
    gbmantis: checks
    Dirty Doc1: checks
    *** RIVER *** [2h 3d 8c Jd] [6c]
    msen612: checks
    gbmantis: bets $60
    Dirty Doc1: folds
    msen612: calls $60
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    gbmantis: shows [Ac Kd] (high card Ace)
    msen612: shows [7h 6h] (a pair of Sixes)
    msen612 collected $522 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $525 | Rake $3
    Board [2h 3d 8c Jd 6c]
    Seat 1: kalibershanD (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: msen612 showed [7h 6h] and won ($522) with a pair of Sixes
    Seat 4: gbmantis showed [Ac Kd] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 5: t soprano folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Dirty Doc1 (button) folded on the River
    Seat 8: Fiks (small blind) folded before Flop
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  3. dandickau dandickau is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:38am) in reply to gbmantis

    nice suckout donk
  4. gbmantis gbmantis is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:55am) in reply to dandickau

    another fun hand.....i think i might have wasted at least one bet here.

    pokerstars Game #3696103109: Hold'em Limit ($30/$60) - 2006/01/20 - 07:52:40 (ET)
    Table 'Prylis' Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 2: oscara ($585 in chips)
    Seat 3: vonpluring ($555 in chips)
    Seat 5: PaNdaY ($1928 in chips)
    Seat 6: t soprano ($1518 in chips)
    Seat 7: JTriverrat ($2695 in chips)
    Seat 8: gbmantis ($741 in chips)
    t soprano: posts small blind $15
    JTriverrat: posts big blind $30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to gbmantis [7s 7h]
    gbmantis: raises $30 to $60
    oscara: folds
    vonpluring: folds
    PaNdaY: folds
    t soprano: folds
    JTriverrat: calls $30
    *** FLOP *** [7c Tc 8h]
    JTriverrat: checks
    gbmantis: bets $30
    JTriverrat: raises $30 to $60
    gbmantis: raises $30 to $90
    JTriverrat: calls $30
    *** TURN *** [7c Tc 8h] [Th]
    JTriverrat: checks
    gbmantis: bets $60
    JTriverrat: raises $60 to $120
    gbmantis: raises $60 to $180
    JTriverrat: raises $60 to $240
    Betting is capped
    gbmantis: calls $60
    *** RIVER *** [7c Tc 8h Th] [4c]
    JTriverrat: bets $60
    gbmantis: raises $60 to $120
    JTriverrat: raises $60 to $180
    gbmantis: calls $60
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    JTriverrat: shows [7d Ts] (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
    gbmantis: shows [7s 7h] (a full house, Sevens full of Tens)
    JTriverrat collected $1152 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $1155 | Rake $3
    Board [7c Tc 8h Th 4c]
    Seat 2: oscara folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vonpluring folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: PaNdaY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: t soprano (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: JTriverrat (big blind) showed [7d Ts] and won ($1152) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
    Seat 8: gbmantis showed [7s 7h] and lost with a full house, Sevens full of Tens
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  5. HungryShark HungryShark is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:58am) in reply to gbmantis

    I dunno about that AK value bet......... and I definately would have slowed down on the river with 77...
  6. TroubleSuit TroubleSuit is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 7:54am) in reply to gbmantis

    Very good play.

    I dont think it is profitable in the long run to raise on this flop with your draw. With a bet and a raise in front of you you could already be drawing to 1 out. Your raise may be ok if you think it will buy you a free card, however with this kind of action on this board I seriously doubt it unless a heart comes, and then you dont need your free card.

    I think the turn play is pretty standard.

    I would not 3 bet the river with the FH possibility.

    J
  7. TroubleSuit TroubleSuit is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 7:59am) in reply to gbmantis

    This hand was misplayed badly IMO.

    Your continuation bet on the flop is good, but IMO if you check the turn it is not a good idea to bet the river unless you improve. You make your hand very easy to read, most good players would raise you on this river with any hand and make you lay down your AK. Just turned out you let a donk catch his card by not betting the turn. I think on this board if you are going to continuation bet on the flop you need to be ready to fire again on the turn. Alot of players will peel a card and fold to a turn bet if they dont improve.

    I guess what Im trying to say is if you are going to bet on the river you may as well bet the turn when the J comes to chase out the hand that beat you.

    J
  8. TroubleSuit TroubleSuit is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 8:03am) in reply to gbmantis

    This last hand seems like one that you need to write off to variance. Not much you can do in this situation. I like your play up to the river, I think you have to just call this river even with such a strong hand. However if your read on this player was that he will overplay trips, which is what I would have put him on, then I can understand the play. Just a tough situation IMO.

    J
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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 5:04pm) in reply to gbmantis

    dam man send me the rake
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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:10pm) in reply to gbmantis

    i would have prolly 3 bet that river. this is one of those, "thats poker" hands. just think of the end result as a good read, and u saved some money.
    tdk
  11. BoomerEsiasin BoomerEsiasin is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 6:27pm) in reply to gbmantis

    7-10 YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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