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  1. jnfpoker jnfpoker is offline

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    Apr 22nd, 2007 (4/22/2007 3:27am)

    I played only 2 hands previously before this one on the final table. The one that went to showdown was KK, so my table image is TAG.

    pokerstars Game #9546372692: Tournament #47726524, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (3000/6000) - 2007/04/22 - 03:11:55 (ET)
    Table '47726524 65' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: voff.voff.21 (116240 in chips)
    Seat 2: dmmikkel (149664 in chips)
    Seat 3: calvinm (153781 in chips)
    Seat 4: jnfpoker (57934 in chips)
    Seat 5: Tio Jorginho (107226 in chips)
    Seat 8: SHARKat19 (178494 in chips)
    Seat 9: PaPaDoC719 (118661 in chips)
    voff.voff.21: posts the ante 300
    dmmikkel: posts the ante 300
    calvinm: posts the ante 300
    jnfpoker: posts the ante 300
    Tio Jorginho: posts the ante 300
    SHARKat19: posts the ante 300
    PaPaDoC719: posts the ante 300
    PaPaDoC719: posts small blind 3000
    voff.voff.21: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jnfpoker [Th Jd]
    dmmikkel: folds
    calvinm: folds
    jnfpoker: ???

    What is the most optimal play here?

    Payouts:
    1st: $4410.00
    2nd: $2646.00
    3rd: $1684.62
    4th: $1234.80
    5th: $970.20
    6th: $793.80
    7th: $617.40
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  2. Neek Neek is offline

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    Apr 22nd, 2007 (4/22/2007 9:27am) in reply to jnfpoker

    Probably fold, there's 4 people left to act, including the chipleader, you're just under 10xBB--still not completely desperate, but are definitely in push or fold mode and the shortest stack. It's a better choice than Ace-rag, but I would probably wait another round or two before I felt I needed to shove TJo. A critical question for me is the blind timing...how long till the next level? If you just got to 3/6k I probably wait. I'd call this a marginal fold.
     
  3. yardle yardle is offline

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    Apr 22nd, 2007 (4/22/2007 1:17pm) in reply to Neek

    another factor in the equation is your bankroll. does the difference between 6 & 7 matter to you? if so, fold and fight it out with a slightly better hand (i suppose this is still debateable). if the difference isn't a big deal to you, i think you're pushing here. you have an M of sightly over 5 and nothing to lose. you have fold equity and if you've been tight and only shown down KK, this is a push. i think i'm on the fence about this and would ask myself if i really wanted that diff between the lower payouts or if i would rather risk it to go for 1st (not that it would be a guarantee even if you doubled...) what'd you do? looking forward to reading what others think.
  4. jnfpoker jnfpoker is offline

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    Apr 22nd, 2007 (4/22/2007 4:29pm) in reply to yardle

    The blinds were being raised to 4000-8000 a400 within 2 minutes which ended up being the deciding factor in my push. Along with the fact that I got impatient due to being the shortest stack at the table. This hand really had me puzzled though. JT looks very pretty when you have been card dead for so long but it really is not that strong when you are in push or fold mode. Although, if I was able to obtain a chipstack I believe I am very good at end game play.
    I guess during very marginal situations like this one I should play by "when in doubt, fold"...

    pokerstars Game #9546372692: Tournament #47726524, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (3000/6000) - 2007/04/22 - 03:11:55 (ET)
    Table '47726524 65' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: voff.voff.21 (116240 in chips)
    Seat 2: dmmikkel (149664 in chips)
    Seat 3: calvinm (153781 in chips)
    Seat 4: jnfpoker (57934 in chips)
    Seat 5: Tio Jorginho (107226 in chips)
    Seat 8: SHARKat19 (178494 in chips)
    Seat 9: PaPaDoC719 (118661 in chips)
    voff.voff.21: posts the ante 300
    dmmikkel: posts the ante 300
    calvinm: posts the ante 300
    jnfpoker: posts the ante 300
    Tio Jorginho: posts the ante 300
    SHARKat19: posts the ante 300
    PaPaDoC719: posts the ante 300
    PaPaDoC719: posts small blind 3000
    voff.voff.21: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jnfpoker [Th Jd]
    dmmikkel: folds
    calvinm: folds
    jnfpoker: raises 51634 to 57634 and is all-in
    Tio Jorginho: folds
    SHARKat19: folds
    PaPaDoC719: folds
    voff.voff.21: calls 51634
    dmmikkel said, "we're left back here in the dust lol"
    *** FLOP *** [2c Ks Qc]
    *** TURN *** [2c Ks Qc] [3c]
    *** RIVER *** [2c Ks Qc 3c] [7c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    voff.voff.21: shows [Td Tc] (a flush, Queen high)
    jnfpoker: shows [Th Jd] (high card King)
    voff.voff.21 collected 120368 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 120368 | Rake 0
    Board [2c Ks Qc 3c 7c]
    Seat 1: voff.voff.21 (big blind) showed [Td Tc] and won (120368) with a flush, Queen high
    Seat 2: dmmikkel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: calvinm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: jnfpoker showed [Th Jd] and lost with high card King
    Seat 5: Tio Jorginho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: SHARKat19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: PaPaDoC719 (small blind) folded before Flop

    I observed the rest of the tournament and PocketFiver dmmikkel played a very solid end game and won the tournament.
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