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4.40 180 What's your play?

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  1. Dan Olson Dan Olson is offline

    Neponset, IL
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:24am)

    pokerstars Game #34953507838: Tournament #209814575, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/11/05 11:10:05 CT [2009/11/05 12:10:05 ET]
    Table '209814575 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Bandemor (1000 in chips)
    Seat 2: Dan Olson (1910 in chips)
    Seat 3: JuriF1 (1460 in chips)
    Seat 4: guilleh08 (1840 in chips)
    Seat 5: the_greek48 (1530 in chips)
    Seat 6: jiriju (1600 in chips)
    Seat 7: postbanken (1530 in chips)
    Seat 8: noreason73 (1460 in chips)
    Seat 9: hitnrun555 (1280 in chips)
    Dan Olson: posts small blind 10
    JuriF1: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Dan Olson [Qs Qd]
    guilleh08: folds
    the_greek48: calls 20
    jiriju: calls 20
    postbanken: folds
    noreason73: calls 20
    hitnrun555: calls 20
    Bandemor: folds
    Dan Olson: raises 120 to 140
    JuriF1: folds
    the_greek48: folds
    jiriju: calls 120
    noreason73: folds
    hitnrun555: calls 120
    *** FLOP *** [6s 8d 7d]
    Dan Olson: bets 200
    jiriju: raises 200 to 400
    hitnrun555: calls 400
    Dan Olson: calls 200
    *** TURN *** [6s 8d 7d] [3h]
    Dan Olson: checks
    jiriju: bets 1060 and is all-in
    hitnrun555: calls 740 and is all-in
    Dan Olson: ???

    My thought process during this hand: Definitely don't want a 6 handed flop so I pop it to 140 pre hoping to iso or at least thin the field considerably. No reads on either caller. Flop comes about as bad as it can get without containing an A or K, perfect flop for anyone who called me setmining or playing suited connectors. I feeler bet a little over 1/3 the pot and get snap minraised and a cold caller behind him. (Should I have 3bet here to find out where I'm at? Can I fold if I get 4bet? Should I fold?) I call, turn doesn't really do anything, not really sure where I'm at in the hand so i check. Double shovesauce in my eye and idk what to do. It sort of looks like an easy laydown but at the same time I've noticed in these 4.40 180's that people treat draws and top pair like the nuts, so I'm torn.

    As played, what do I do here? Also, how bad did I play it up to this point?
  2. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:32am) in reply to Dan Olson

    Please shove the flop do not flat. as played call the turn. It's a 4.40 serously. You are giving this way too much thought.
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  3. ntanygd760 ntanygd760 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:32am) in reply to Dan Olson

    all in flop.
    as played call, complain about loosing to A5 or a flush and fire up another
     
  4. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:40am) in reply to Dan Olson

    I like how you played it post flop. I do the same for value.

    ON that board I will be happy to get it in at some point post flop.. Either bet/shove or Check/Shove . Im not just calling and peeling a turn card.. There is enough in the pot for me to be happy to get it in right there with QQ. I want my money in the middle first.
  5. Drewch Drewch is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 12:08pm) in reply to Dan Olson

    RR the flop all in
     
  6. louiemdj louiemdj is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 12:12pm) in reply to Dan Olson

    All in on the flop.
  7. grox1228 grox1228 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 12:39pm) in reply to louiemdj

    Is there anything to be said about the bet sizing preflop? With that many limpers, even if you made it 200 I'd be surprised if you didn't get at least 2 callers and shocked if you took it down preflop. So doesn't making it this big pre only complicate things further when a dangerous board, like this one, hits? It makes you have to bet bigger, getting you more invested and making it more likely that the other invest in any draws they have. At this level hand probably ends up playing out in a similar fashion anyway, and you definitely shove the minraise on the flop, but jw if anyone thinks that making it 70 pre allows this hand to unfold any differently?
  8. murondubs murondubs is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 1:09pm) in reply to Dan Olson

    ABC poker will make you alot of money in the 4.40s .....bet sizing preflop is fine... get it all in on the flop... if you lose fire up another
  9. CayneB CayneB is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 2:26pm) in reply to Dan Olson

    Yeah, it appears you're overthinking in a $4.40 PStars 180seater... I'm reshoving on this flop 100% of the time.
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