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4.40$ 180man, check-raise attempt turns into WTF spot

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  1. Doim Doim is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 6:40pm)

    linzm vp$ip 24 / 0%raisepre / 36%limp
    so obv i tred to check raise here.

    what is your play after the action ? i know probably fold pre. how often does the villains show up with Ax/fds or sets?

    [00:23:34] Doim: pokerstars Game #42862364716: Tournament #264292562, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/04/19 0:22:19 CET [2010/04/18 18:22:19 ET]
    Table '264292562 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: mcdrbdrb (3666 in chips)
    Seat 2: Brooklyn999 (3401 in chips)
    Seat 3: Frau Lindt (13258 in chips)
    Seat 4: Doim89 (5916 in chips)
    Seat 5: cimbom3434 (5297 in chips)
    Seat 6: dondamiann (12996 in chips)
    Seat 8: hair45 (2685 in chips)
    Seat 9: linzm168 (4680 in chips)
    Doim89: posts small blind 100
    cimbom3434: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Doim89 [4h Ah]
    dondamiann: calls 200
    hair45: folds
    linzm168: calls 200
    mcdrbdrb: folds
    Brooklyn999: calls 200
    Frau Lindt: folds
    Doim89: calls 100
    cimbom3434: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Th Ac 4c]
    Doim89: checks
    cimbom3434: checks
    dondamiann: bets 400
    linzm168: raises 500 to 900
    Brooklyn999: raises 2301 to 3201 and is all-in
    Doim89: ?????????????????????

    will post results later
  2. 8ntmuch 8ntmuch is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 6:46pm) in reply to Doim

    its a 4.40... get it in and fade the draws!
  3. archerace7 archerace7 is offline I watch the stats

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 6:54pm) in reply to Doim

    One has flush draw..and the other either str draw...or A9 A8

    Just guessing though
  4. Sdanby Sdanby is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 6:54pm) in reply to Doim

    flat pre is fine by me. cant imagine folding here though, but it could be closer than i think, actually the more i look at it the more i want to nit fold, actually i have no clue
  5. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 7:00pm) in reply to 8ntmuch

     
    Originally Posted by 8ntmuch View Post

    its a 4.40... get it in and fade the draws!

    Agreed. Not a great spot but I don't see folding this hand in a 4.40.
     
  6. FGEasiest FGEasiest is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 7:11pm) in reply to s.l. halper

    Hey doim,

    sick action in front of you, but i cant really see a fold here... If you range your opponents its pretty seldom that anyone has aa,1010(normally a hand which is raised pre) and 44 is pretty much a cooler...
    Mostly you play against Ax combos and flushdraws. so you´re way ahead...
    if anyone has a set or gets to his draw its just unlucky and u fire up another one...
    but hey you have 2pair in a 4.40 where nobody shows signs of strong hands pre,
    so get it in...
     
  7. Doim Doim is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 7:16pm) in reply to FGEasiest

    thanks for the input I ended up folding because the minraise in a multiway pot with a fd just seemed too strong/weird
    imo the problem in the lower buy ins like the 4.40$/180 are the calling stations that dont raise hands which are normally raised, so i thought im up against a10/44 or maybe TT here.
    i put the guy who shoved on a fd but there was still the minraise guy behind me and knowing his stats and my remaining stack is still big enough even if i miss a good spot to double/tripple up
    wont fold such spots in the future anyway

    [00:23:34] Doim: pokerstars Game #42862364716: Tournament #264292562, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/04/19 0:22:19 CET [2010/04/18 18:22:19 ET]
    Table '264292562 17' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: mcdrbdrb (3666 in chips)
    Seat 2: Brooklyn999 (3401 in chips)
    Seat 3: Frau Lindt (13258 in chips)
    Seat 4: Doim89 (5916 in chips)
    Seat 5: cimbom3434 (5297 in chips)
    Seat 6: dondamiann (12996 in chips)
    Seat 8: hair45 (2685 in chips)
    Seat 9: linzm168 (4680 in chips)
    Doim89: posts small blind 100
    cimbom3434: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Doim89 [4h Ah]
    dondamiann: calls 200
    hair45: folds
    linzm168: calls 200
    mcdrbdrb: folds
    Brooklyn999: calls 200
    Frau Lindt: folds
    Doim89: calls 100
    cimbom3434: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Th Ac 4c]
    Doim89: checks
    cimbom3434: checks
    dondamiann: bets 400
    linzm168: raises 500 to 900
    Brooklyn999: raises 2301 to 3201 and is all-in
    Doim89: folds
    cimbom3434: folds
    dondamiann: folds
    linzm168: calls 2301
    *** TURN *** [Th Ac 4c] [7s]
    *** RIVER *** [Th Ac 4c 7s] [6d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    linzm168: shows [Tc Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
    Brooklyn999: shows [3c 2c] (high card Ace)
    Brooklyn999 said, "aids"
    linzm168 collected 7802 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7802 | Rake 0
    Board [Th Ac 4c 7s 6d]
    Seat 1: mcdrbdrb folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Brooklyn999 showed [3c 2c] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 3: Frau Lindt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Doim89 (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: cimbom3434 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: dondamiann folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: hair45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: linzm168 showed [Tc Ts] and won (7802) with three of a kind, Tens
    Thread Starter
  8. 8ntmuch 8ntmuch is offline

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    Apr 18th, 2010 (4/18/2010 7:22pm) in reply to Doim

     
    Originally Posted by Doim View Post

    linzm168: shows [Tc Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
    Brooklyn999: shows [3c 2c] (high card Ace)
    Brooklyn999 said, "aids"
    linzm168 collected 7802 from pot

    best part of that entire thing.... lol
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