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4.40 Rush Whats your play on this river?

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  1. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 3:58pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #25405431805: $4 + $0.40 Rush Sit & Go (196959541), Table 27 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:50:48 ET - 2010/11/09
    Seat 1: Spictacular120 (5,400)
    Seat 2: soczeff (1,964)
    Seat 3: Ikaika21 (2,780), is sitting out
    Seat 4: Pokerno1 (6,164)
    Seat 5: pd581 (4,185)
    Seat 6: Harald_One (3,691)
    Seat 7: superbiz1 (5,220)
    Seat 8: Calgary Jazz (2,960)
    Seat 9: Juras33k (2,430)
    soczeff posts the small blind of 100
    Ikaika21 posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Spictacular120 [Ac 8c]
    Pokerno1 folds
    pd581 raises to 400
    Harald_One folds
    superbiz1 folds
    Calgary Jazz folds
    Juras33k folds
    Spictacular120 has 15 seconds left to act
    Spictacular120 calls 400
    soczeff folds
    Ikaika21 folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ah Qc Ad]
    pd581 checks
    Spictacular120 checks
    *** TURN *** [Ah Qc Ad] [9c]
    pd581 checks
    Spictacular120 bets 600
    pd581 calls 600
    *** RIVER *** [Ah Qc Ad 9c] [Jc]
    pd581 checks
    Spictacular120 bets 1,000
    pd581 has 15 seconds left to act
    pd581 raises to 2,000
    Spictacular120 ??????
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 4:13pm) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

    If you didn't have a plan when you got to the river; why did you bet? I don't like the river bet unless you plan to call.

    You beat [A,7] and worst hands (lot's of pp other than QQ, JJ & 99).

    You should probably call for the Pot Odds.
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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 5:02pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    I see no problem with the river bet, he will most definitely call with worse. AK, AT, A7 and lower, as well as straights and smaller flushes. So a value bet is indeed warranted as he would be happy to get to showdown with these hands on a coordinated board.

    He is never bluffing here either. He has to figure I am always calling in that spot so I don't even put air in his range.

    I don't ever see some random player check min raising a river there without the nuts or close to it. My flush is behind AQ, A9, AJ, QQ, JJ and 99. Is he really raising anything worse here?
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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 5:08pm) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

    You have turned a good hand into a bluff catcher.
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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 5:20pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    Checking river is bad imo, miss so much value from lots of worse hands that will call.

    Do you bet call if he shoves? What range do you put him on to check raise river?
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  6. TonyJ TonyJ is offline

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    Nov 9th, 2010 (11/9/2010 6:27pm) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

    I say you shove. He didn't reraise on the turn so I think that leaves the AQ and QQ out. He probably has a Jx. I'd go all in and either take the pot there or win it all in a showdown.
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    Nov 10th, 2010 (11/10/2010 2:07am) in reply to TonyJ

    FWIW I folded
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    Nov 14th, 2010 (11/14/2010 10:45pm) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

    u make a huge mistake by shoving like the other guy said; you made a good analysis that u re beat and i agree; i probably call cause i m bad; i also agree checking river behind is bad
    u also made a huge mistake when u called preflop ofc; dont wanna be the bad guy but playing weak aces to an early raise is suicidal
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