Zero chance of calling. He is 99.9% betting flop, and without set, you are clueless about what to do...also obv not getting set odds to flat.

Almost zero chance of folding without information that he is very tight in 3 betting.

Shove is standardly standard.

his range for 3 betting a CO raise from the bb is pretty wide. I like inissint's analysis. Nice play.

IMO i think you should have folded to the reraise there! You had plenty of chips and plenty of BB's to choose better spot. 99 is a good hand to push with here preflop in an unopened pot as you did. But with that kind of resistance;And being so deep into the tourney i don't think you risk it!

Shure you got in good here;But if i am in your position in the c/o. And then a guy reshoves my 3x push i think it's an easy fold with 99 here. You have to figure that he knows that you have a pretty decent hand to raise the c/o with three to act.

A reraise tells me that he is aware of this;And that he is saying that he has a better hand. And obviously he backed up his claim by 4 betting. This tells me that he is willing to go all the way with his hand. And with the guy being new to the table and no read on his play! I think that you have to give him credit for a hand bigger than 99 here.

More so because this is a push from the BB of all places! He's out of position which i am sure he was aware of. And he will be betting out of position on all streets. If this were a positional repop you on the c/o and the villian on the button. Then maybe just maybe i put him on a resteal.

But anyway with the chips you had and an M of 20; No way you shove with 99 here. In this situation as far as making a move like this preflop; You have to be more inclined to shove all-in with hands like AA/KK/QQ/AK ect.

I am not saying that it is incorrect to shove lesser hands. But just not in this situation with the chips that you had to play with. If you were short stacked with 99 ect i feel this play would have been perfect for the situation. But why play your big stack as though you were short stacked????

i think the most important thing to consider is that this is just a 30$ mtt, and not somethin like the 100r where the light 3betting frequency is alot higher, there really is nothing wrong with 4betting 99 here as even in 30$ mtt's there are gonna be players who are knowledgable and capable of 3betting light

flatting is not an option pre

Fold the 99? Oh, really?

The BB could be restealing and folding to the shove from Hero. This is a less than 3x raise from the CO and could easily be a steal which makes the BB reraise very possibly a resteal so I say the shove w 99 is a good play here. We have a lotta FE (since this is a possible resteal) and have a decent hand to showdown and if villain calls and turns over AA-TT then we still have a 20% to double-up. There is a long way to go and we cannot miss this chance to chip-up.

Lol, I wrote out a response but decided not to post and later I saw Jennifear's newest article and thought of you will...this statement in particular:

"I realized that giving too much advice on this topic could be detrimental to them because a lot of of the low-limit players they were facing couldn't imagine raising and then folding in the same betting round, as they often feel (wrongly) "invested" in the pot, thus making an attempt at a resteal too big of a gamble to be profitable."

Well i am sorry guys but being at a 9 handed table in the c/o with 99; i will be happy to push 3x thebb in a dry pot. But if i am faced with a reshove from the BB with only the imformation provided here.

There is no way i am going to shove all-in here to someone who watched me push three player. And then he comes over the top for a total of close to 19% of his stack. The only move you can make here is to reshove all-in or fold. And this is a clear fold for me to a guy i don't have a solid read on.

I am pretty sure that if you make this play 10 of 10 times;you will be heading to the rail 60% of the time. With an otherwise big chip stack if you would have just folded here. This is an obvious chip spew as far as i am concerned with the lack of imformation on the player in the bb.

There is no way you can tell me that after spending 5 hours or so in an Mtt;With an above avg chip stack and an M of 20. That you will just shove 99 to another stack of equal or higher chip value;When in fact the smart move here would be to conserve your chips and pick a better spot.

I am not saying that this is a bad move;But just not the optimal move in this situation. You have to give this guy some kind of credit here now come on. You have to play the entire situation as well as the hand in question.

I am not going to get into a big hand for all my chips with another big stack;When there is plenty of smaller stacks that i would have made this move on,with no hesitation!

Will,

I think the fatal flaw in your whole point of view is that you are assuming that a CO raise is always viewed strong from a bb. In fact, the CO has always been one of the prime stealing postiions b/c the vast majority of players have already acted and there are many fewer players left to act. You are assuming that raising with 3 players left to act is strong, but I think almost everyone else would agree that this in fact a raise from the CO usually looks weak. Does this change your analysis/idea about the situation any?

[ ] understands the action preflop
[x] has never 4-bet
[x] still awaiting his deep run

you have an M of like 13.5 and are definately ahead of bb's range here based on the little info you provided. Even though you have 30 bb's there's no reason to be comfortable there. I think this is a great chance to accumulate chips. If you had won this coinflip then we would've been railing a chip leader at the final table. Unluckuy man but I'm pushing here almost every tuime.

its not 20.9. antes. 800+400+(75*9)...

Will, ur putting too much thought on this. While tourney life is very very important early in tournaments, u gotta be willing to take some chances late in order to put urself in a spot to win the tournaments. Survival is ovverrated after u get into the money and even in the middle stages of the tourney. Agaainst an unkown I'm shoving here 100% of the time... The reason for this are:

- A lot of players are using position to pick up free money with weak hands, This is a known fact, and ppl keep doing this even if they know theire opponents are aware of it. The odds of ppl picking up a good enough hand behind are very slim and many ppl are scared to reraise without a hand even if they know they're being robbed.

- If u take this to the next level, u have to put urself in the bb's position. Hes facing a raise from late position and he knows that they're both big stacks. It would be very logical that he knows that the raiser doesnt wanna risk his tourney life against another big stack so his reraising range SHOULD be very wide, and according to OP read on him, thats whats happening here.

- The 4 bet will have plenty of fold equity as the other guy will not even be getting close to 2:1 on a call.

- The bbs range here as already mentioned should be wide, and im not surprised if he will fold at least 50% of the time which means the OR will increase his stack by over 30% every time his opponent folds with no showdown! And this is huuuuge. Even if he does get called, he might be ahead oh hands like AK and AQ... maybe even 7s.

- Fold equity is key in tournament play. The sooner u realize it, the more u will win.

Annette

Annette u pwn

I just wanted to say thanks to all who replied, appreciate the advice/comments...stupor, annette, etc.-i really appreciate your key analysis here, as well as the contributions made by will and others......annette was right, I was under the impression he was giving my CO raise no credit and also felt that i would instamuck to a 3bet most of the time for 2 reasons: 1) my position and or lack of a hand to begin with and 2) the fact that i was top 5 in chips and didnt wanna risk all of them even if i did have a semistrong hand......and yes, the most important reasons why I pushed were becuase I was pretty sure that was his line of thinking, and decided to go up one level and push it in and also becuase if all this is in fact true, 99 is def ahead of his range for 3betting giving the circumstances. And yes Divine, against this particular player of the 3 behind me, I was prepared to 4bet all in with 99 here. Thanks to all once again, esp Annette for coming to the rescue :). Gl all in the future.

-UCF

Thank you all i have learned a hell of alot today!!!! even if i did make a fool of myself LOL!!!

Annette_15 & Jenni