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.5/1 cash hand..opinions plz

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  1. RiverRock55 RiverRock55 is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:14pm)

    Okay in some situations i know its better just to call when raising will just push out the hands you beat and build the pot for hands that crush you. In this spot I felt I was either dominated and just drawing to a flush or being bet at with weaker aces and or total air. Did I distort this concept and play the hand like a weak tight calling station? or is this really the optimal line with a poor result.

    Also could the line be good, but with a fold on the river instead of a call? (my hand was underrepresented and the pot odds were juicy)

    OKERSTARS GAME #13815902802: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/12 - 15:01:50 (ET)
    Table 'Roswitha' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: LisetheMach ($100 in chips)
    Seat 2: Deffs ($85.65 in chips)
    Seat 3: mackey239 ($100 in chips)
    Seat 4: Albounet ($203 in chips)
    Seat 5: Horse257 ($61.60 in chips)
    Seat 6: RiverRock55 ($97.85 in chips)
    Deffs: posts small blind $0.50
    mackey239: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to RiverRock55 [As Qs]
    Albounet: folds
    Horse257: raises $1 to $2
    RiverRock55: raises $5 to $7
    LisetheMach: folds
    Deffs: calls $6.50
    mackey239: folds
    Horse257: calls $5
    *** FLOP *** [Ks 3s Ad]
    Deffs: checks
    Horse257: bets $1
    RiverRock55: raises $7 to $8
    Deffs: raises $8 to $16
    Horse257: folds
    RiverRock55: calls $8
    *** TURN *** [Ks 3s Ad] [4c]
    Deffs: bets $25
    RiverRock55: calls $25
    *** RIVER *** [Ks 3s Ad 4c] [9h]
    Deffs: bets $35
    RiverRock55: calls $35
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Deffs: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
    RiverRock55: mucks hand
    Deffs collected $172 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $175 | Rake $3
    Board [Ks 3s Ad 4c 9h]
    Seat 1: LisetheMach (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Deffs (small blind) showed [Ah Ac] and won ($172) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 3: mackey239 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Albounet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Horse257 folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: RiverRock55 mucked [As Qs]
  2. sandler1860 sandler1860 is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:16pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    I prolly get it in on the flop, but I suck at 6 max cash games. As played, I guess you could fold river....but thatd be a pretty sick fold.
     
  3. sharkzilla1 sharkzilla1 is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:18pm) in reply to sandler1860

    Agreed, I'm just an SNG donk and would get it in on the flop which is prolly bad. I think we can fold river unless they have been getting out of line a lot?
  4. DRock DRock is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:24pm) in reply to sharkzilla1

    thats sick of him to just call your preflop raise, i would have bumped it again. crazy that his hand held up with that board. i think you played it fine, either go nuts after the flop or ride it out like you did, either way is fine depending on how you're feeling that day. tough hand
  5. RiverRock55 RiverRock55 is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:36pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    The problem with reshipping it in on the flop is that Im only getting called by better hands. Weaker flush draws and aces will have to muck. Also Im not too concerned about giving free cards. The only concievable way I get burned by that is letting him catch a Jack, Ten for aces up.
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  6. THEE Catfish THEE Catfish is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:42pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    please do not "get it in" on the flop whatever you do... i think u played it fine
    maybe fold river, but thats tough to do i suppose the min raise could make u think he had a set or something but its hard to fold
  7. beck_AA beck_AA is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:45pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    its played perfect up until the flop. When someone bets $1 into you of course you raise, but when the 3rd guy value re-raises u, just fold. Your drawing dead here 90% of the time, and 10% you will split the pot. Now since its 6max, sometimes I 4bet/fold w/ AQ on that flop, jus to see if this guy is fkin around w/ me, although if he 5bets me, i usually have my 'fold to any bet button' checked.
     
  8. UncleCollins UncleCollins is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:55pm) in reply to beck_AA

    Umm.. he has the nut flush draw which gives at least 9 outs for sure. Far from drawing dead 90% of the time.
  9. beck_AA beck_AA is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 4:57pm) in reply to UncleCollins

    oops misread the HH, sry, yea and its 6max, <span>IM ALL IN</span>....scratch my last post..but if you have AQo, then it makes sense :)
     
  10. b.stern b.stern is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 5:20pm) in reply to beck_AA

    Any reads/info/pt stats on the other guy, if he's a loose cannon then just push flop, if he's a rock then you can find a fold, if he's somewhere in between you play seems reasonable.
  11. SquishyPeach SquishyPeach is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 5:55pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    Repotting this flop is completely standard and u will consistently get looked up by worst flush draws and aces especially by someone who isnt bought in full at 100nl...Please at least try and get it in on this flop...Its just unlucky than u ran into aces this time.
  12. Prophite Prophite is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 5:59pm) in reply to SquishyPeach

    i fold to the min raise there and he shows his AA and says good fold
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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 6:26pm) in reply to Prophite

    I don't think you played it too badly calling his min reraise to try and hit the flush. Probably priced out when you called his turn bet though and a bad call on the river. You should have known you were behind after he minreraises flop and then continues firing bets just the right size to get called. I was putting him on at least ak or probably 33 as i read through the HH but an AA slowplayer, don't you hate em, lol.
  14. b.stern b.stern is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 6:34pm) in reply to 8ROM

    Misread that you had the nut flush draw too, I get all in on the flop basicly every time.
  15. shannon shannon is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 6:56pm) in reply to RiverRock55

    i think you played the pre flop and flop good but you should have folded the turn . i put him on 33 and maybe AK. you need to hit your flush to win and you are only getting 3 to 1 on your $ so you should fold.
  16. GoldenDomer9 GoldenDomer9 is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 7:08pm) in reply to shannon

    So I guess I'm the only one who folds this river. After the flop played out, it's pretty clear that you're drawing to a spade. I don't have a problem with continuing from there, but you missed. I really don't see what you're beating on the river. Muck.
  17. b.stern b.stern is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 7:18pm) in reply to GoldenDomer9

    Whats with all the advice saying fold turn and river, this is .50-1 against a guy with 85% of the buy in (I assume he's not a reg becasue he would have the full buy in) with no more info on him. The poster should never of shown the fact that he has AA becasue I think most people posting here are being very results orientated.

    This hand is easy, get it in on the flop.
  18. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Dec 12th, 2007 (12/12/2007 9:45pm) in reply to b.stern

    get it on flop err time.
     
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