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5-bet or flat KK in 25k?

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  1. super plaaayer super plaaayer is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 6:54pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #11789080903: $25,000 Guarantee (88290398), Table 72 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:21:43 ET - 2009/04/20
    Seat 1: Georgica2000 (3,630)
    Seat 2: mental sherpa (1,750)
    Seat 3: Joker_tn (3,510)
    Seat 4: Super Plaaayer (2,755)
    Seat 5: construct13 (2,390)
    Seat 6: mike_smith25 (2,460)
    Seat 7: PChizzle (4,665)
    Seat 8: moneyman171 (2,900)
    Seat 9: RonArtest10 (3,020)
    PChizzle posts the small blind of 20
    moneyman171 posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Super Plaaayer [Kc Kd]
    RonArtest10 raises to 80
    Georgica2000 folds
    mental sherpa folds
    Joker_tn folds
    Georgica2000: super
    Super Plaaayer raises to 220
    construct13 folds
    mike_smith25 folds
    PChizzle folds
    moneyman171 folds
    Georgica2000: nice raise
    RonArtest10 raises to 360
    Georgica2000: you turn me on
    Super Plaaayer has 15 seconds left to act
    Super Plaaayer calls 140
    *** FLOP *** [Th Ah Jh]
    RonArtest10 bets 390
    Super Plaaayer has 15 seconds left to act
    Super Plaaayer folds

    minraise utg followed by min 4-bet...wtf...as for the flop, hard to beat anything in his range, except for maaaaybe QQ or KK, though obv very unlikely KK
     
  2. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 6:57pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    Think RonArtest is a solid midstakes reg if I remember hearing right...I'd prolly flat the min raise and hope for set tbh. Fold now
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:04pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    he prolly has AA, but its $26 bucks i would get it in and hope for the best. if u win, ur stacking, if not, move on to the next, idk thats just me though, im not bout to fold KK pre in an online tourney.
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:06pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    Is there any chance that is the real Ron Artest? Apparently Orel Hersheiser on pokerstars really is Orel Hersheiser, so I think this might really be Ron Artest.
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  5. super plaaayer super plaaayer is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:10pm) in reply to jshark4

     
    Originally Posted by jshark4 View Post

    im not bout to fold KK pre in an online tourney.

    folding pre was never an option
     
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:15pm) in reply to super plaaayer

     
    Originally Posted by super plaaayer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by jshark4 View Post

    , im not bout to fold KK pre in an online tourney.

    folding pre was never an option

    i was saying that cause bef99hak siad to fold now. i know it was prolly a joke but i was just saying it neways
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  7. super plaaayer super plaaayer is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:16pm) in reply to jshark4

     
    Originally Posted by jshark4 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by super plaaayer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by jshark4 View Post

    , im not bout to fold KK pre in an online tourney.

    folding pre was never an option

    i was saying that cause bef99hak siad to fold now. i know it was prolly a joke but i was just saying it neways

    think he meant fold flop
     
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:30pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    I 4-bet with QQ in the first blind level of the Sunday Million yesterday only to get 5-bet shoved on. I called. Take a wild guess what he had.

    pokerstars Game #27271628803: Tournament #155222531, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2009/04/19 16:34:56 ET
    Table '155222531 849' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: BADBTURAS (8925 in chips)
    Seat 3: advanced (9925 in chips)
    Seat 5: diatribed (9925 in chips)
    Seat 6: Xaston (10975 in chips)
    Seat 7: Listerphine (9850 in chips)
    Seat 8: SICKTIGHT311 (10000 in chips)
    Seat 9: PeterG (10400 in chips)
    diatribed: posts small blind 25
    Xaston: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Listerphine: raises 100 to 150
    SICKTIGHT311: calls 150
    PeterG: folds
    BADBTURAS: raises 650 to 800
    advanced: folds
    diatribed: folds
    Xaston: folds
    Listerphine: folds
    SICKTIGHT311: raises 2425 to 3225
    BADBTURAS: raises 5700 to 8925 and is all-in
    SICKTIGHT311: calls 5700
    *** FLOP *** [Ts 2c 9h]
    *** TURN *** [Ts 2c 9h] [6s]
    *** RIVER *** [Ts 2c 9h 6s] [9s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SICKTIGHT311: shows [Qc Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
    BADBTURAS: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
    BADBTURAS collected 18075 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 18075 | Rake 0
    Board [Ts 2c 9h 6s 9s]
    Seat 1: BADBTURAS showed [Ad Ah] and won (18075) with two pair, Aces and Nines
    Seat 3: advanced (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: diatribed (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: Xaston (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Listerphine folded before Flop
    Seat 8: SICKTIGHT311 showed [Qc Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
    Seat 9: PeterG folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Moral of the story. I suck.
  9. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:34pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    OP - you played it fine as long as you mucked the flop.

    ST311 - sigh :(
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:35pm) in reply to jshark4

    $26, jam pre
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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:35pm) in reply to SICKTIGHT311

    Rons a donk
     
  12. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 7:53pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.
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  13. Frank1The1Tank Frank1The1Tank is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 8:01pm) in reply to andressoprano

    Id flat KK vs nits like you and doubledave22. Esp if you are at the FT of the FTP 750k and just waiting until you cooler someone.
     
  14. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 8:11pm) in reply to Frank1The1Tank

     
    Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank View Post

    Id flat KK vs nits like you and doubledave22. Esp if you are at the FT of the FTP 750k and just waiting until you cooler someone.

    Please elaborate? I really think that the 750K thing is getting way old, besides the fact that I didn't exactly wait to cooler anybody there, but whatever. For many brilliant minds I suck, a few idiots think I'm not that bad, nothing I can do about it.
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  15. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 9:59pm) in reply to andressoprano

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.

    Do you ever reply to posts without including some random and irrelevant story?
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  16. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 10:01pm) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.

    Do you ever reply to posts without including some random and irrelevant story?

    I just enjoy bothering random idiots.

    Did I bother you? Read above^^^
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  17. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 11:43pm) in reply to andressoprano

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.

    Do you ever reply to posts without including some random and irrelevant story?

    I just enjoy bothering random idiots.

    Did I bother you? Read above^^^

    I'm not bothered by the fact that you're a tool, therefore no, you didn't bother me.

    Double fail. wp.
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  18. PocketRuners PocketRuners is offline

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 11:48pm) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.

    Do you ever reply to posts without including some random and irrelevant story?

    Does everybody hate andre as much as it seems that they do? He must have a flame target painted on his back.
  19. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 20th, 2009 (4/20/2009 11:52pm) in reply to super plaaayer

    I honestly don't understand why an intelligent person would waste his time mocking every single post someone he doesn't like makes. Sick life
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  20. SeRiaL SeRiaL is offline

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:02am) in reply to andressoprano

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    I honestly don't understand why an intelligent person would waste his time mocking every single post someone he doesn't like makes. Sick life

    Kinda like you've been doing in this thread?
  21. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:11am) in reply to SeRiaL

     
    Originally Posted by SeRiaL View Post

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    I honestly don't understand why an intelligent person would waste his time mocking every single post someone he doesn't like makes. Sick life

    Kinda like you've been doing in this thread?

    Can you please tell me when? I must have missed that part. I'd recommend you to re-read the thread. You guys are honestly contributing a lot to this community, your poker analysis posts are extremely helpful, the HH's you guys share have really help me a lot ( mines only include bad plays getting rewarded ), and I also heard that you, shanetrain, and others are offering free advice to people you don't even know. Man, I feel like shit comparing my behavior to yours.

    / Of my worthless contribution to this discussion. In the last few months this is getting worse by the minute; I self proclaim myself the worst poster ever on PD ( feel free to take the cheap shot of quoting that part and typing QFT right under it ).
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  22. SeRiaL SeRiaL is offline

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:17am) in reply to andressoprano

     

    Can you please tell me when? I must have missed that part. I'd recommend you to re-read the thread. You guys are honestly contributing a lot to this community, your poker analysis posts are extremely helpful, the HH's you guys share have really help me a lot ( mines only include bad plays getting rewarded ), and I also heard that you, shanetrain, and others are offering free advice to people you don't even know. Man, I feel like shit comparing my behavior to yours.[.quote]

    ANDRESOPRANO wrote

    I just enjoy bothering random idiots.

    Did I bother you? Read above^^^

    hmmmm indeed,you contribute a lot.
  23. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:25am) in reply to SeRiaL

     
    Originally Posted by SeRiaL View Post

     

    Can you please tell me when? I must have missed that part. I'd recommend you to re-read the thread. You guys are honestly contributing a lot to this community, your poker analysis posts are extremely helpful, the HH's you guys share have really help me a lot ( mines only include bad plays getting rewarded ), and I also heard that you, shanetrain, and others are offering free advice to people you don't even know. Man, I feel like shit comparing my behavior to yours.[.quote]

    ANDRESOPRANO wrote

    I just enjoy bothering random idiots.

    Did I bother you? Read above^^^

    hmmmm indeed,you contribute a lot.

    Do you realize I was replying? I am going to avoid the banhammer and don't tell you what I really think about your post.

    Also, please link me to the many poker discussion posts you have made in the past.

    EDIT: Just had the pleasure of finding this gem of yours: http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...00?pageindex=1
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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:36am) in reply to super plaaayer

    shoving, or flatting is fine. Shoving looks weaker than 5betting.
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  25. SeRiaL SeRiaL is offline

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:36am) in reply to andressoprano

    Lol there was no sarcasm in that post either,100% true. ldo. You can PM me if u want to continue this conversation.
  26. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 12:43am) in reply to SeRiaL

     
    Originally Posted by SeRiaL View Post

    Lol there was no sarcasm in that post either,100% true. ldo. You can PM me if u want to continue this conversation.

    So you were been sarcastic, but you couldn't see that I was replying ? LOL at you. Don't wait for my PM's, I have nothing else to talk with a random idiot who enjoys to follow the trend. Enjoy your life.

    BTW, if by mistake I ever reply to a post of yours, don't take it as a friendly approach, it just happens that I tend to forget SN's of meaningless people.
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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 1:27am) in reply to super plaaayer

    weeeeeeeeeee gg mr super plaaayer u were able to start a bitch fight in ur post!!!!! oh and in response just shove
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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 1:44am) in reply to yellowjakets

    lol p5s lol
     
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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 2:02am) in reply to andressoprano

    You seem like a very bored and immature individual.
     
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    Apr 21st, 2009 (4/21/2009 2:27am) in reply to shanetrain22

     
    Originally Posted by shanetrain22 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by andressoprano View Post

    Only player in the world I'd flat KK preflop set mining is ChipSteela, and I don't even know if it's profitable: Only time I flopped a set vs his AA I won a 400 chips pot. Anybody else, jam it, gg if he has AA, etc.

    Do you ever reply to posts without including some random and irrelevant story?

    doubtful
     
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