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5 handed in the 6 R&A, is this correct lay down? opinions please

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  1. beauright beauright is offline

    Saint Petersburg, FL
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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 11:16am)

    Okay, so I know its a grey area.....the first raiser I know is buyin and I am ready to hit call and the chip leader smooth calls...

    I know its a 6 rebuy so the play isnt the best, but do you call here to triple up or fold to move up in money....The difference didnt matter to me as it was a small field and small buyin I only wanted 1st!

    ***** Hand History for Game 3627228579 *****
    NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20507727 Level:21 Blinds-Antes(30000/60000-1500) - Sunday, February 26, 12:11:05 ET 2006
    Table Rebuy(611860) Table #1 (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 10: beauright ( $324857 )
    Seat 7: jockey85 ( $495677 )
    Seat 6: jobar21 ( $557272 )
    Seat 2: y545nsk ( $428271 )
    Seat 4: LuangDong ( $665760 )
    Seat 8: SEMPER_VICI ( $1008163 )
    Trny:20507727 Level:21
    Blinds-Antes(30000/60000-1500)
    y545nsk posts ante [1500].
    LuangDong posts ante [1500].
    jobar21 posts ante [1500].
    jockey85 posts ante [1500].
    SEMPER_VICI posts ante [1500].
    beauright posts ante [1500].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to beauright [ Jc Kd ]
    y545nsk folds.
    LuangDong folds.
    jobar21 folds.
    jockey85 is all-In.
    beauright: just close your eyes and pray
    SEMPER_VICI calls [464177].
    beauright: gl
    beauright: wow
    Your time bank will be activated in 5 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
    beauright folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Ts, Ks ]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
    SEMPER_VICI shows [ Qs, As ] a pair of fours.
    jockey85 shows [ 5h, Js ] a pair of fours.
    SEMPER_VICI wins 1057354 chips from the main pot with a pair of fours with ace kicker.
    Player jockey85 finished in 6 place and received $270.50
  2. sandler1860 sandler1860 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 11:22am) in reply to beauright

    Even though you would have won the hand, that is an easy fold IMO. I always like to push my case chips in, not call with them, especially with KJ.......
     
  3. beauright beauright is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 11:23am) in reply to sandler1860

    I guess my question is

    If I am going for the win, should I call or fold?
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  4. Dg0016 Dg0016 is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 11:38am) in reply to beauright

    This was an easy fold even if the other guy had not called. I don't mind a push for all your chips with KJ trying to pick up blinds but i hate calling off all your chips pre with KJoff
  5. djinoc djinoc is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 11:42am) in reply to beauright

    Calling and or pushing is not a good play here... ask yourself this: would you even post this question here if there was an A on the board?
  6. beauright beauright is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 12:02pm) in reply to djinoc

    Okay, so I did fold because I know that KJ isnt the best hand....But after the fold I was left with less than 3 M and forced to push anything in the next two or three hands.

    Im cool with that usually, but was curious to if others choose to gamble here to go for the win with the 2 to 1 pot odds.

    thanks for the responses guys......

    guess I wanted this to be more of a discussion and not about the results of the hand
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  7. rakbeater rakbeater is offline

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    Feb 26th, 2006 (2/26/2006 12:23pm) in reply to beauright

    If semper also knew that jockey was stealing then he could easily have called with a hand weaker than yours or a pair tens and under. This has much more to do with your read on what type of player semper is. He isn't really smooth calling, since calling and pushing all in have the same result....he has you covered with a call, so regardless you are deciding for all your chips. So I guess the question you have to answer is: What hands would semper call with if he knew that jockey was stealing with any two cards. I don't have time to figure out the percentages, as my wife is waiting on me to leave (what else is new lol) but once u narrow down the hands semper would be calling with, then you assess your odds. Since you are only playing for 1st, this is prob the best opportunity before you get blinded out to get the chip lead and put you in great position to win it.
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