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  1. MattieBoy131 MattieBoy131 is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 10:29pm)

    pokerstars Game #24004079859: Tournament #134685333, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (3000/6000) - 2009/01/17 18:08:28 ET
    Table '134685333 6' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: MO220 (41304 in chips)
    Seat 2: quiet child (19287 in chips)
    Seat 5: discret69 (68008 in chips)
    Seat 6: MattieBoy131 (88592 in chips)
    Seat 9: 4_o_a_kind (52809 in chips)
    MO220: posts the ante 600
    quiet child: posts the ante 600
    discret69: posts the ante 600
    MattieBoy131: posts the ante 600
    4_o_a_kind: posts the ante 600
    discret69: posts small blind 3000
    MattieBoy131: posts big blind 6000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to MattieBoy131 [2s 4c]
    4_o_a_kind: folds
    MO220: folds
    quiet child: raises 12687 to 18687 and is all-in
    discret69: folds
    MattieBoy131: ??????

    So I have to call 12k to win 33k-ish, so I'm gettin almost 3-1. Snap call?
  2. JKamikazeKid JKamikazeKid is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 10:37pm) in reply to MattieBoy131

    You may be getting 3-1 pot odds, but you need to have 2 live and the opponent can't have a pair in order to make this a justifiable call.

    But seeing he only has 3 BB and his shoving range is insane at this point, I'd say this is a call.
  3. timfbmx timfbmx is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 10:39pm) in reply to JKamikazeKid

    sick brag that your at a FT
  4. supra1988t supra1988t is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 10:49pm) in reply to timfbmx

    I'd call with your stack.
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  5. MattieBoy131 MattieBoy131 is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 11:32pm) in reply to supra1988t

    ty for the responses! I called and he had A3, hit a 2 on river (woot!)

    Supra hit exactly what I was hoping someone would say. I know I hear "if you're gettin >2:1, call ATC" all the time, but I am also aware of when to break that based on stack sizes. That's exactly why I called.

    What if I had less chips? How low would my stack have to be in order for it to become a fold?
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  6. JKamikazeKid JKamikazeKid is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2009 (1/17/2009 11:53pm) in reply to MattieBoy131

    Really I would think that given the blinds at 3K/6K and you having 88K (about 14x BB's) as the chip leader, not a single person at this table can exercise standard chip management.

    Even your 12K call committed 15% of your stack.

    I would normally think if you're committing more than 33% (or 1/3) of your stack to a shove, I'd say fold the 2-4.

    In the case above, you would only lose 2 BB making the call and you still had about 11BB behind so it's a "safe" call.
  7. threeven threeven is offline

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    Jan 18th, 2009 (1/18/2009 12:11am) in reply to MattieBoy131

    I call even if the dealer only gave me one card
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