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5 players left at micro buy in final table whats your play here!

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  1. phatlamb2 phatlamb2 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 4:30am)

    pokerstars Game #23393130621: Tournament #129737088, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (40000/80000) - 2008/12/30 4:20:58 ET
    Table '129737088 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 2: Chaos-Ralle (2425596 in chips)
    Seat 4: VILLAIN (1712592 in chips)
    Seat 7: phatlamb2 (2365353 in chips)
    Seat 8: ROC31FSU (761491 in chips)
    Seat 9: pjdemps (267968 in chips)
    Chaos-Ralle: posts the ante 8000
    VILLAIN: posts the ante 8000
    phatlamb2: posts the ante 8000
    ROC31FSU: posts the ante 8000
    pjdemps: posts the ante 8000
    phatlamb2: posts small blind 40000
    ROC31FSU: posts big blind 80000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to phatlamb2 [Kh Ah]
    pjdemps: raises 179968 to 259968 and is all-in
    Chaos-Ralle: folds
    VILLAIN: raises 179968 to 439936
    phatlamb2: ??????
    ROC31FSU: folds
    VILLAIN: ??????

    The villain here has been hyper aggressive and is the reason I have the chips I do. I went into the final table shortstacked and tripled up through his loose raises and reraises. So what would you do? I post result later.
  2. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 4:33am) in reply to phatlamb2

    i shove and get coolered by AA.

    or i shove into AQ and hold and ship the $$$$$$$.

    hopefully #2
     
  3. crnau crnau is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 4:46am) in reply to phatlamb2

    you donk you folded this i bet.

    And if you didn't your being results orientated and are a idiot.
  4. yooperusaf yooperusaf is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 4:54am) in reply to crnau

     
    Originally Posted by crnau View Post

    you donk you folded this i bet.

    And if you didn't your being results orientated and are a idiot.

    this would probably explain the shitty results you have
  5. phatlamb2 phatlamb2 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 5:08am) in reply to yooperusaf

     
    Originally Posted by yooperusaf View Post

     
    Originally Posted by crnau View Post

    you donk you folded this i bet.

    And if you didn't your being results orientated and are a idiot.

    this would probably explain the shitty results you have

    Its pitiful to post on this site looking for a decent answer and get flamed by children. Just answer the fkng question what would you do. I'm Trying to learn and get better I obviously wasn't born with green felt and poker chips in my ass like you brats!!! Now flame on!!!!
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  6. yooperusaf yooperusaf is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 5:18am) in reply to phatlamb2

     
    Originally Posted by phatlamb2 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by yooperusaf View Post

     
    Originally Posted by crnau View Post

    you donk you folded this i bet.

    And if you didn't your being results orientated and are a idiot.

    this would probably explain the shitty results you have

    Its pitiful to post on this site looking for a decent answer and get flamed by children. Just answer the fkng question what would you do. I'm Trying to learn and get better I obviously wasn't born with green felt and poker chips in my ass like you brats!!! Now flame on!!!!

    if you feel the villain has a wide range, CALL. probably JJ/QQ vs Villians A10 vs your AK. happy now?
  7. Spozmeist Spozmeist is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 6:57am) in reply to phatlamb2

    I would shove here.

    The UTG raiser has about 3 big blinds so is shoving any two there, and you said that the villain had been raising and reraising loose - AK is perfect for shoving over the top if his range is this wide.

    If you win this hand you have a suberb chance to win the tournament. If he has AA or another premium then its just unlucky
  8. tcdmb36 tcdmb36 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 8:47am) in reply to Spozmeist

    Shove it
  9. railbot railbot is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 9:03am) in reply to tcdmb36

    I Shove and scream, lee motheriffing jones..
  10. Sigmapoker Sigmapoker is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 9:20am) in reply to phatlamb2

    Never fold this. UTG has 3 bbs. His range is enormous. He's shoving any A, any pair and probably any broadway combo, most suited connectors or just ATC. The laggy guy at your table makes a retarded min-iso raise. Really with his stack he should be reshoving but whatever. You'd have a better idea of what his range but if he's really laggy then most aces and pairs are in it. Either way AK beats both players ranges so anything other than 4betting here is terrible.
  11. wantagolf wantagolf is online now Moderator

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 9:21am) in reply to phatlamb2

    Unless you want to sit and wait for others to bust, so you can move up a spot or 2, i would shove. 90% of the time you have his range beat. That doesnt mean PS wont let him suckout on you.
     
  12. phatlamb2 phatlamb2 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 1:26pm) in reply to phatlamb2

    COOLER! Thanks for the advice guys next time I would do the same thing again!

    pokerstars Game #23393130621: Tournament #129737088, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (40000/80000) - 2008/12/30 4:20:58 ET
    Table '129737088 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 2: Chaos-Ralle (2425596 in chips)
    Seat 4: ladykilla85 (1712592 in chips)
    Seat 7: phatlamb2 (2365353 in chips)
    Seat 8: ROC31FSU (761491 in chips)
    Seat 9: pjdemps (267968 in chips)
    Chaos-Ralle: posts the ante 8000
    ladykilla85: posts the ante 8000
    phatlamb2: posts the ante 8000
    ROC31FSU: posts the ante 8000
    pjdemps: posts the ante 8000
    phatlamb2: posts small blind 40000
    ROC31FSU: posts big blind 80000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to phatlamb2 [Kh Ah]
    pjdemps: raises 179968 to 259968 and is all-in
    Chaos-Ralle: folds
    ladykilla85: raises 179968 to 439936
    phatlamb2: raises 1917417 to 2357353 and is all-in
    ROC31FSU: folds
    ladykilla85: calls 1264656 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (652761) returned to phatlamb2
    *** FLOP *** [6h 5d 2d]
    *** TURN *** [6h 5d 2d] [9s]
    *** RIVER *** [6h 5d 2d 9s] [Jd]
    thetugman [observer] said, "i've worked my pokerstars account up from 83 cents to 2.20 just to say ladykilla sucks imo"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    phatlamb2: shows [Kh Ah] (high card Ace)
    ladykilla85: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
    ladykilla85 collected 2889248 from side pot
    pjdemps: shows [4s 4c] (a pair of Fours)
    ladykilla85 collected 899904 from main pot
    phatlamb2 said, "nh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3789152 Main pot 899904. Side pot 2889248. | Rake 0
    Board [6h 5d 2d 9s Jd]
    Seat 2: Chaos-Ralle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ladykilla85 (button) showed [Kd Ks] and won (3789152) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 7: phatlamb2 (small blind) showed [Kh Ah] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 8: ROC31FSU (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: pjdemps showed [4s 4c] and lost with a pair of Fours
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  13. Nothingmaker Nothingmaker is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 1:32pm) in reply to phatlamb2

    Good hand. You got unlucky. You definitely need to ship this. Sounds like ladykilla's range is wide.
  14. Archie1106 Archie1106 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 1:37pm) in reply to phatlamb2

    folding> shoving
  15. JLucky34 JLucky34 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 1:55pm) in reply to Archie1106

     
    Originally Posted by Archie1106 View Post

    folding> shoving

    Please DO NOT follow any advice that points towards folding this hand. You hit and cooler, and you realize it which is great. The UTG player shipping 3bb's has a range of probably 50% of possible hands, and an isolating reraise can't push you away from a premium such as AKh 5 handed. Push your chips in even before he minraises and reap the rewards.
  16. leftygrove leftygrove is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 1:58pm) in reply to crnau

     
    Originally Posted by crnau View Post

    you donk you folded this i bet.

    it's actually obvious that he raised, because the betting went back to the villain and he "?????"'ed out the result

    in a short-handed game this is a shove 100% of the time

    the villain might have AA or KK, and the minraise often is a big hand, but it's also often a cheap iso-raise. the only time i might ever consider a fold is if 4th-->3rd is a huge payout increase, but this isn't an SnG so I doubt that's the case
  17. sean614 sean614 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 2:00pm) in reply to Archie1106

    lol plz keep folding AK 5 handed...

    ez shove
  18. mleone3333 mleone3333 is offline

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    Dec 30th, 2008 (12/30/2008 2:00pm) in reply to JLucky34

    born with green felt and poker chips in my ass.... LOL

    shove
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