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$50 PLO, is this a fold?

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  1. JokersOnYou JokersOnYou is offline

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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 7:31pm)

    The only two reads on this hand are that one player had Aces and the other has Kings. Should I be folding this hand?

    pokerstars Game #33362214708: Tournament #196490162, $50+$5 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/09/27 18:46:23 ET
    Table '196490162 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: MaestroKebab (2920 in chips)
    Seat 2: Acey Dollar (3120 in chips)
    Seat 4: marky_crash (2800 in chips)
    Seat 5: tioalberto (2585 in chips)
    Seat 6: ravino1900 (3940 in chips)
    Seat 7: Joker$OnYou (3220 in chips)
    Seat 8: kristine.p (2615 in chips)
    Seat 9: pfcpoker_UK (2920 in chips)
    pfcpoker_UK: posts small blind 15
    MaestroKebab: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Joker$OnYou [As 2h Ad 7c]
    eric1313 is connected
    Acey Dollar: calls 30
    marky_crash: folds
    tioalberto: calls 30
    ravino1900: calls 30
    Joker$OnYou: raises 165 to 195
    kristine.p: folds
    pfcpoker_UK: raises 510 to 705
    MaestroKebab: folds
    Acey Dollar: raises 1695 to 2400
    tioalberto said, "y"
    tioalberto: folds
    ravino1900: folds
    Joker$OnYou: ????
     
  2. pikappraider78 pikappraider78 is offline

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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 7:33pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    whoah. i mean i dont think id ever fold AA with 100bbs or less but like shiiiit those r as bare as they can get. im not super experienced at omaha im waiting to see what any one good says
     
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 7:34pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    no
     
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 7:40pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    i mean i only play ring, but id imagine id want a big stack in a PLO FO....a lot more important to have your opponents well covered in plo than nlhe.....just ship it in, _UK is probably gonna fold here and hope the flop is 222....at this buyin I don;t think you can legitimize folding AA in this spot, no matter how bare they are
     
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 7:54pm) in reply to 24shack24

    with your aces being so bare, and with your read of someone else having the other two aces, I'd say you can find a fold here......its pretty early still......i doubt that either of the other players have hands as bare as you.....
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 8:01pm) in reply to ray419

    I'm probably not calling here, my edge in omaha is in post flop play though so that's why I fold here.

    Edit - Just actually looked at HH and saw you raised pot after 3 limpers. After three limpers with bare aces like this I usually limp behind or min raise and only continue the flop with a set... I hate aces in omaha though rarely play them aggressively unless they're double suited with cards that work together as well.
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 8:37pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    Cards %win %lose %tie EV

    <table id="odds"><tbody><tr><td> </td><td>37.75</td><td>62.25</td><td>0.00</td><td>0.378</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>9.78</td><td>56.34</td><td>33.88</td><td>0.267</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>18.59</td><td>47.53</td><td>33.88</td><td>0.355</td></tr></tbody></table>
     
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 8:38pm) in reply to DEApoker87

    i wouldnt fold here
     
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 9:18pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    It's a fold, my opinion isnt that valid, but there are so many bad players in omaha tourns(admittedly dont play $50 but ive heard they are also pretty terrible) you can get it in better than this situation! AA is just one pair...in omaha one pair doesnt win often, and if someone has the other AA(which is VERY plausible) then you are in absolute all sorts with no connectivity what so ever!

    go the 345r flop, you should (might) be good : )
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    Sep 27th, 2009 (9/27/2009 9:53pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    pokerstars Game #33362214708: Tournament #196490162, $50+$5 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/09/27 18:46:23 ET
    Table '196490162 4' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: MaestroKebab (2920 in chips)
    Seat 2: Acey Dollar (3120 in chips)
    Seat 4: marky_crash (2800 in chips)
    Seat 5: tioalberto (2585 in chips)
    Seat 6: ravino1900 (3940 in chips)
    Seat 7: Joker$OnYou (3220 in chips)
    Seat 8: kristine.p (2615 in chips)
    Seat 9: pfcpoker_UK (2920 in chips)
    pfcpoker_UK: posts small blind 15
    MaestroKebab: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Joker$OnYou [As 2h Ad 7c]
    eric1313 is connected
    Acey Dollar: calls 30
    marky_crash: folds
    tioalberto: calls 30
    ravino1900: calls 30
    Joker$OnYou: raises 165 to 195
    kristine.p: folds
    pfcpoker_UK: raises 510 to 705
    MaestroKebab: folds
    Acey Dollar: raises 1695 to 2400
    tioalberto said, "y"
    tioalberto: folds
    ravino1900: folds
    Joker$OnYou: raises 820 to 3220 and is all-in
    pfcpoker_UK: calls 2215 and is all-in
    Acey Dollar: calls 720 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (100) returned to Joker$OnYou
    *** FLOP *** [6s Kd 9h]
    *** TURN *** [6s Kd 9h] [7s]
    *** RIVER *** [6s Kd 9h 7s] [2c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Acey Dollar: shows [6d Ks 8c Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
    Joker$OnYou: shows [As 2h Ad 7c] (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
    Acey Dollar collected 400 from side pot
    pfcpoker_UK: shows [Ac Jc Ah 5s] (a pair of Aces)
    Acey Dollar collected 8850 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9250 Main pot 8850. Side pot 400. | Rake 0
    Board [6s Kd 9h 7s 2c]
    Seat 1: MaestroKebab (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: Acey Dollar showed [6d Ks 8c Kc] and won (9250) with three of a kind, Kings
    Seat 4: marky_crash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: tioalberto folded before Flop
    Seat 6: ravino1900 folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Joker$OnYou showed [As 2h Ad 7c] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Deuces
    Seat 8: kristine.p (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: pfcpoker_UK (small blind) showed [Ac Jc Ah 5s] and lost with a pair of Aces
     
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