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  1. OneTime_10 OneTime_10 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 10:00pm)

    I mean the open raise and then the flat are obv. suspicious with their stack sizes...after this flop and action what now? Should I just be folding pre?

    Stage #115720843 Tourney ID 5159288 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 600 - 2010-03-26 20:53:09 (ET)
    Table: 1 (Real Money) Seat #9 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - 1BIGDUMBDONK (11,275 in chips)
    Seat 2 - N_FROST_10 (20,855 in chips)
    Seat 3 - AVALOU120808 (38,834 in chips)
    Seat 4 - POLAR_BEARS (11,545 in chips)
    Seat 5 - AIRKID3 (7,092 in chips)
    Seat 7 - MARAHAJA1928 (7,330 in chips)
    Seat 8 - DUBIVEY (11,083 in chips)
    Seat 9 - TURK_MALLOY (16,316 in chips)
    1BIGDUMBDONK - Ante 75
    N_FROST_10 - Ante 75
    AVALOU120808 - Ante 75
    POLAR_BEARS - Ante 75
    AIRKID3 - Ante 75
    MARAHAJA1928 - Ante 75
    DUBIVEY - Ante 75
    TURK_MALLOY - Ante 75
    1BIGDUMBDONK - Posts small blind 300
    N_FROST_10 - Posts big blind 600
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to N_FROST_10 [Jh Qs]
    AVALOU120808 - Folds
    POLAR_BEARS - Folds
    AIRKID3 - Folds
    MARAHAJA1928 - Raises 1,555 to 1,555
    DUBIVEY - Folds
    TURK_MALLOY - Folds
    1BIGDUMBDONK - Calls 1,255
    N_FROST_10 - Calls 955
    *** FLOP *** [Qh 10h Jc]
    1BIGDUMBDONK - Checks
    N_FROST_10 - Checks
    MARAHAJA1928 - Bets 1,888
    1BIGDUMBDONK - All-In(Raise) 9,645 to 9,645
    N_FROST_10 - ?????
     
  2. Counting Bodies Counting Bodies is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 10:09pm) in reply to OneTime_10

    I definately would have folded preflop...flatting here actually seems pretty terrible to me with the the size of the other two stacks involved. Probably would have led on flop after SB checks. As played theres no way im folding here.
     
  3. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 10:27pm) in reply to Counting Bodies

    Never folding...ever
     
  4. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 11:47pm) in reply to rivverkiller

     
    Originally Posted by rivverkiller View Post

    Never folding...ever

  5. toddytheboy toddytheboy is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 11:48pm) in reply to OneTime_10

    folding preflop 8 days a week and check folding the flop and not telling anybody
     
  6. miko77q miko77q is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2010 (3/27/2010 12:23am) in reply to OneTime_10

    I woulda folded pre too, but I doubt you can fold now...It's obv. the original raiser you're worried about, and I don't like that his flop bet is so small, but I still don't think you can fold such a strong hand. Pusher is gonna have QK / TJ / AA / KK / flush draw I think more than K9, AK or a set.

    Edit: just noticed original raiser's stack. I think you can prolly take out certain pair/straight draw combo's pusher should have...Idk, I hate his flat. He SHOULD have AA or KK there, and you can beat those, but who knows maybe he's one big dumb donk...yes, I went there.
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  7. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2010 (3/27/2010 1:33am) in reply to miko77q

    Fold pre-flop of course.

    Initial raiser is not going to fold with this stack, so you are going three-way here.

    Your best scenario of AA from initial raiser and some pp from the sb which puts you anywhere between 45-51% depending on if the pair has a possible straight redraw. AA and naked hearts from the sb (which can only be 78 and a9 because of all of the usual flush cards are out already, both unlikely but possible holdings), puts you at about 40 percent equity. Both would merit a pretty easy call. However, the problem is each of them should have premium-type hands because both are going to the flop with seriously small stacks. Once AK or TT go into the mix everything dips to the point where you end up with 20% of equity in the pot.

    I was going to say snap-fold but this is far closer than I initially thought. I just think that if you click call here you are going to see AK here a lot from initial raiser and you are screwed. Frankly, calling or folding equally suck. Save yourself by folding pre-flop to such short stacks.
     
  8. CP_MagiciaN CP_MagiciaN is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2010 (3/27/2010 4:00am) in reply to s.l. halper

    I literally can't put dumbdonk on any hand. Played with him a lot and this is super weird by him. That said I wouldn't fold.
     
  9. Polar_Bears Polar_Bears is offline

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    Mar 28th, 2010 (3/28/2010 5:08am) in reply to CP_MagiciaN

    Snap call, rake pot.
  10. deezy5821 deezy5821 is offline

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    Mar 28th, 2010 (3/28/2010 5:22am) in reply to OneTime_10

    BIGDONK has 1010 here 90 % of time ive played with him before and he likes to play hands dumb as fk pre imo and loves to mash pot with nuts/huge hands...please post results.
     
  11. CP_MagiciaN CP_MagiciaN is offline

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    Mar 28th, 2010 (3/28/2010 5:25am) in reply to deezy5821

    Flatting TT here is just all kinds of retarded. Not saying you're wrong...but if you're right I def need to rethink my reads on him.
     
  12. CP_MagiciaN CP_MagiciaN is offline

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    Mar 28th, 2010 (3/28/2010 5:27am) in reply to CP_MagiciaN

    Actually now that I'm looking at stack sizes again I can't think of any hand that's good to flat here...
     
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