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55 on the button (22 bigs)

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  1. theairplane theairplane is offline

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    Jun 22nd, 2012 (6/22/2012 9:36pm)

    I raise folded here against solid semi reg, just wondering if anyone thinks a shove or a raise/call is better (if its a fold what pair do we need be able to make the call) it was near money bubble in big 109


    pokerstars Hand #82314761626: Tournament #578010445, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2012/06/22 16:08:41 ET
    Table '578010445 22' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: migsgreen (15908 in chips)
    Seat 2: JulioSchmutz (19406 in chips)
    Seat 3: henriqueschi (6846 in chips)
    Seat 4: basil86 (18658 in chips)
    Seat 5: berman As (22357 in chips)
    Seat 6: timoros (17566 in chips)
    Seat 7: kingmmmmmmmm (24888 in chips)
    Seat 8: Magardan (21461 in chips)
    migsgreen: posts the ante 100
    JulioSchmutz: posts the ante 100
    henriqueschi: posts the ante 100
    basil86: posts the ante 100
    berman As: posts the ante 100
    timoros: posts the ante 100
    kingmmmmmmmm: posts the ante 100
    Magardan: posts the ante 100
    berman As: posts small blind 400
    timoros: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to basil86 [5s 5h]
    kingmmmmmmmm: folds
    Magardan: folds
    migsgreen: folds
    JulioSchmutz: folds
    henriqueschi: folds
    basil86: raises 850 to 1650
    berman As: folds
    timoros: raises 15816 to 17466 and is all-in
    basil86:
  2. cracker9ball cracker9ball is offline

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    Jun 23rd, 2012 (6/23/2012 5:33am) in reply to theairplane

    22 bigs is a lil to much to shove into an equal stack and a bigger stack. The shove chart says 22+ but we all know that shove charts work best between and M of 3-7 and you have an M of 9.

    I would prob be ok with 2x open and calling against wide range res-teal players and folding to tight players. As far as a range to b/c with prob JJ+, AQ+. I think AJ would be marginal vs some players and TT is so borderline. Good luck

    This will be player dependent in most cases btw
     
  3. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    Jun 23rd, 2012 (6/23/2012 6:15pm) in reply to cracker9ball

    Pretty much what cracker said. r/c, r/f and shove are all viable options, depending on the villains.

    I don't love r/c, but if villains are reshoving a very wide range, including some hands you dominate, it's not bad. For example,

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 48.447% 47.95% 00.50% 1876853772 19513668.00 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
    Hand 1: 51.553% 51.05% 00.50% 1998445836 19513668.00 { 55 }

    Of course, that's high variance. Open shoving is going to be lower variance and profitable, but won't always be optimal. r/f is preferable when the blinds aren't going to reshove light and their range is likely to dominate your hand.
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