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$60 45-man, what's the play???

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  1. poncholoco poncholoco is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 8:59am)

    The raiser has not played a hand yet.

    Fold, call, raise, or shove?

    pokerstars Game #52138240456: Tournament #327919317, $55+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/11/03 22:02:03 ET
    Table '327919317 3' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Poncholoco (1200 in chips)
    Seat 3: Dok_B (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: morgieoo1 (1635 in chips)
    Seat 5: Riverturbo (725 in chips)
    Seat 6: bigDB85 (1565 in chips)
    Seat 7: dhilton12 (1425 in chips)
    Seat 8: wcsquad3 (1415 in chips)
    Seat 9: Peter_HH (1965 in chips)
    Poncholoco: posts small blind 25
    Dok_B: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Poncholoco [8c 8h]
    morgieoo1: folds
    Riverturbo: folds
    bigDB85: folds
    dhilton12: folds
    wcsquad3: raises 72 to 122
    Peter_HH: folds
    Poncholoco: ???
    Dok_B:
    Edited By: poncholoco Nov 4th, 2010 at 09:57 AM
  2. mindtrip954 mindtrip954 is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 9:39am) in reply to poncholoco

    Im not sure how these play out at this the $60 level, and with stars structure.. Ive played a shit ton of $11 45 mans on FTP, and in this spot I would flat. I know in mtts your often looking for better implied odds to set mine, but in 45mans u have to adjust and i think the 10:1 implied odds are enough here. On FTP the next level is 30/60 so im still sitting on 18bbs if i miss (so my 3bet shove stack is still in good shape). (at the same time the $11 level players wills tack off with random top pair, or spazz on some other stupid shit). IIRC stars jumps to 50/100 after this level, which will put us in push/fold mode regardless of our stack being 1200 or 1078.

    IMO if the blinds jump to 50/100 in the next level, with the raise being in late position I think calling is marginal +ev, reshipping is prolly best. If it was TT im reshipping here all day.

    Curious what others that play the $60+ games say... I feel like just calling might not be optimal in the higher limits, and this might be a clear push/fold situation...
  3. darkhawk-200 darkhawk-200 is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 9:49am) in reply to mindtrip954

    blast away
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  4. Demitrius100 Demitrius100 is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 9:53am) in reply to darkhawk-200

    hmmm... that is a good hand to post.
    i think i would shove. maybe call and if low cards come go all in on his c-bet? and fold to c bet if high cards come? mehhh i think im shoving.
     
  5. Wellwisher Wellwisher is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 10:34am) in reply to Demitrius100

     
    Originally Posted by Demitrius100 View Post

    hmmm... that is a good hand to post.
    i think i would shove. maybe call and if low cards come go all in on his c-bet? and fold to c bet if high cards come? mehhh i think im shoving.

    See, cream420, instead of posting a thread about it, you should just give helpfull tips like this ^ hehe. I think Demitrius is doing his part...

    so funny...
  6. in4games in4games is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 5:30pm) in reply to Wellwisher

    it's jam or fold if im not in a bunch of games might look to see if he's opened any pots already if he has with any frequency easier jam
     
  7. okse54 okse54 is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 5:32pm) in reply to in4games

    id prob shove
     
  8. P0KERDUUDE P0KERDUUDE is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 6:36pm) in reply to okse54

    these $60/45 mans are very tough to beat, lot of strong players. I would probably shove here, but I probably wouldn't be playing in these to begin with
     
  9. Jennifear Jennifear is online now

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    Nov 4th, 2010 (11/4/2010 6:37pm) in reply to P0KERDUUDE

    I'm jamming this even though I have a few more chips than I generally like to jam with a good hand. Since we are out of position, lets take position out of the equation.
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