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"60 Minutes" Story On Online Poker

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  1. Darth Fear Darth Fear is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 5:33am)

    I didn't see it posted yet, so in case you wanted to watch it, the 60 Minutes story on the Online Poker cheating scandal is on this Sunday Nov. 30. It's supposed to be the lead segment on the program.
  2. luckyleewon1 luckyleewon1 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 9:03am) in reply to Darth Fear

    Here's a link to part of the coverage

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4633262n
  3. Popperhead Popperhead is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 9:09am) in reply to luckyleewon1

    Fianlly Just seen the 1.5 min preview on the 60 mins website can't wait
  4. brikdog24 brikdog24 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 9:15am) in reply to Darth Fear

    no volume at work

    is it good or bad?

    like good for our non poker friends and family to watch or no?
     
  5. Pet Monster Pet Monster is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:11am) in reply to brikdog24

    wouldn't let non-poker family watch it. They're usually the one's that don't understand/can't condone what you do online to begin with....this will only add fuel to their fire in terms of a concrete example to use as a con
     
  6. yooperusaf yooperusaf is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:33am) in reply to Darth Fear

    Wow, after seeing the preview for the segment.......My dad is going to flame on and on and on and on about how he is right and that online poker is all luck and everyone is getting scammed. FML
  7. Cuthroat187 Cuthroat187 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:37am) in reply to yooperusaf

    I suspect this will not be good for online poker players.
  8. B1GTOE B1GTOE is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:39am) in reply to Cuthroat187

    thank goodness Todd Witteles 'solved' the AP scandal
  9. amymarie1967 amymarie1967 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 10:39am) in reply to brikdog24

    Def bad. Way bad.

    Shocked that "pros" Tod Wiselis (? Name said so fast it sounded like that, and I don't know the "regs") would go on and expose how vulnerable the programs can be.
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 11:27am) in reply to Darth Fear

    Will there be anywhere online I can watch this after it's broadcast (I'm based outside the US)?
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 11:32am) in reply to Darth Fear

    In the first 15 secs they say online poker is illegal. Someone get on the phone with the PPA, this could be trouble.
  12. kwoods kwoods is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 11:34am) in reply to dtools22

    Ya i just watched it to i dont get it?? I hope to god my mom doesnt see this
  13. Cuthroat187 Cuthroat187 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 11:57am) in reply to kwoods

     
    Originally Posted by kwoods View Post

    Ya i just watched it to i dont get it?? I hope to god my mom doesnt see this

    come on bud ur 30
  14. IBGrindin IBGrindin is online now

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 12:01pm) in reply to kwoods

    Great.

    Fucking Great.
     
  15. kwoods kwoods is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 12:03pm) in reply to Cuthroat187

     
    Originally Posted by Cuthroat187 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by kwoods View Post

    Ya i just watched it to i dont get it?? I hope to god my mom doesnt see this

    come on bud ur 30

    not to her im not.
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 12:06pm) in reply to kwoods

     
    Originally Posted by kwoods View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Cuthroat187 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by kwoods View Post

    Ya i just watched it to i dont get it?? I hope to god my mom doesnt see this

    come on bud ur 30

    not to her im not.

    ^^^^ LOL WTF?
     
  17. RichardHurtz RichardHurtz is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 12:21pm) in reply to playchipgod

    I honestly believe that in the long run this will be good for online poker. This can be our chance to get it regulated in the US. The opening story did say that regardless Americans are still playing....this is important in getting congress to understand that its going to happen regardless and we should attempt to make it safe and collect revenues from it.

    I honestly don't understand you people that would bury your heads in the sand and ignore the cheating scumbags all under the guise of its bad for online poker to have it exposed.

    What we need is regulation, laws and consequences for people that steal from others in online poker.

    The push should be to have congress issue licenses to certain states to operate and regulate online poker. Companies like Harrahs, Sands and MGM, all regulated by the Navada Gaming. We need to bring online poker home to the US and out of the hands of the Kanawake Indian Tribe.
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 12:22pm) in reply to Darth Fear

    nice of them to release this just as things got CEREUS
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:11pm) in reply to Darth Fear

    I think there needs to be a 60 Minutes investigation of the 60 Minutes legal team. Since when is online poker illegal in the U.S.? Maybe in some states, but certainly not everywhere.
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:15pm) in reply to Darth Fear

    There is also a 2:57 clip to the side of the main clip where he talks about the UB/AP scandal, how it was uncovered by the players, and what is being done...
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:20pm) in reply to RichardHurtz

     
    Originally Posted by RichardHurtz View Post

    We need to bring online poker home to the US and out of the hands of the Kanawake Indian Tribe.

    Most intelligent comment I've seen on P5's in months.

    Good job by you Richard
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:36pm) in reply to Darth Fear

    link to said preview plz?
  23. RichardHurtz RichardHurtz is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 1:47pm) in reply to kwoods

    They said the industry is illegal in the US, they never said that playing online poker is illegal. Are they correct?

    Can I open up a poker site from my home in the US and start accepting deposits?
  24. ios94 ios94 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 3:03pm) in reply to RichardHurtz

    They should be more clear with the "online poker is illegal" statement. Legal to play, illegal to set up in the US.

    See the two previews here;

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4633262n http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4635030n
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 3:18pm) in reply to ios94

    This shit makes me hate UB and AP and now Cereus so fucking bad. Poker is a hard enough sell as it is. I would be asshamed to be an UB or AP pro. I know you have to look out for yourself, but come on people. Helmuth dosn't need the money that bad...tell those people to go Fuck off. This scandle could end up being the end all the US poker. Sad stuff
  26. rocksockyea rocksockyea is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 3:26pm) in reply to ios94

    lol dan druff to the rescue!
  27. TMLMS13 TMLMS13 is online now

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 3:57pm) in reply to brsavage

     
    Originally Posted by brsavage View Post

    There is also a 2:57 clip to the side of the main clip where he talks about the UB/AP scandal, how it was uncovered by the players, and what is being done...

    hooray for N82
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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:11pm) in reply to dtools22

     
    Originally Posted by dtools22 View Post

    In the first 15 secs they say online poker is illegal. Someone get on the phone with the PPA, this could be trouble.

    The way they say, they are corrrect. They never say it's illegal for an individual to play it. They say it's illegal to operate in the USA.
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  29. XXEDPXX XXEDPXX is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 4:37pm) in reply to kice32

    With this and the dissapointment of Cereus UB and AP need some serious positive PR. I dont know but it seems they are just slowly falling apart.
  30. dtools22 dtools22 is offline

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    Nov 26th, 2008 (11/26/2008 6:22pm) in reply to kice32

     
    Originally Posted by kice32 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by dtools22 View Post


    In the first 15 secs they say online poker is illegal. Someone get on the phone with the PPA, this could be trouble.

    The way they say, they are corrrect. They never say it's illegal for an individual to play it. They say it's illegal to operate in the USA.

    It's not hard to hear that and think something else though. I'm not worried about people on this forum suddenly going, "Hmmm, maybe I should rethink this whole poker thing." I'm worried about the 55+ demographic that watches 60 minutes going, "These people are criminals for playing poker."

    Yeah they are old, but I'd rather not have people equating me to a drug dealer because I make money playing cards.
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