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  1. R.J_Legit R.J_Legit is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 7:15pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #24924230502: $40,000 Guarantee (192787226), Table 30 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:50:38 ET - 2010/10/22
    Seat 1: Shipocles (14,890)
    Seat 2: SIGGYFREUD (10,081)
    Seat 4: ivanteacher (9,164)
    Seat 5: Kiwis luck (39,202)
    Seat 6: Lie Conspiracy (15,829)
    Seat 7: DonkeyPele (8,056)
    Seat 8: Yeshaya (9,078)
    Seat 9: chrisdav2926 (16,685)
    Shipocles antes 50
    SIGGYFREUD antes 50
    ivanteacher antes 50
    Kiwis luck antes 50
    Lie Conspiracy antes 50
    DonkeyPele antes 50
    Yeshaya antes 50
    chrisdav2926 antes 50
    DonkeyPele posts the small blind of 250
    Yeshaya posts the big blind of 500
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Shipocles [Ac Ah]
    chrisdav2926 raises to 2,000
    Shipocles calls 2,000
    SIGGYFREUD has 15 seconds left to act
    SIGGYFREUD folds
    ivanteacher folds
    Kiwis luck folds
    Lie Conspiracy has 15 seconds left to act
    Lie Conspiracy folds
    DonkeyPele folds
    Yeshaya folds
    *** FLOP *** [5c Jc Th]
    chrisdav2926 checks
    Shipocles checks
    *** TURN *** [5c Jc Th] [Tc]
    chrisdav2926 checks
    Shipocles checks
    *** RIVER *** [5c Jc Th Tc] [6c]
    chrisdav2926 has 15 seconds left to act
    chrisdav2926 bets 3,000
    Shipocles

    No real reads except the obv 4 x pre which would denote a pretty decent holding I'd assume.
    Is there ever a reason to raise this river... or is it always call/fold, likely always call tho.
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  2. MarleyGroup MarleyGroup is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 7:28pm) in reply to R.J_Legit

    forget the river, bet the flop or the turn
     
  3. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 7:37pm) in reply to MarleyGroup

    If you think he has a strong range pre why not raise then? As played Id flat the river.
     
  4. wck117 wck117 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 7:57pm) in reply to R.J_Legit

     
    Originally Posted by R.J_Legit View Post

    Full Tilt Poker Game #24924230502: $40,000 Guarantee (192787226), Table 30 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:50:38 ET - 2010/10/22
    Seat 1: Shipocles (14,890)
    Seat 2: SIGGYFREUD (10,081)
    Seat 4: ivanteacher (9,164)
    Seat 5: Kiwis luck (39,202)
    Seat 6: Lie Conspiracy (15,829)
    Seat 7: DonkeyPele (8,056)
    Seat 8: Yeshaya (9,078)
    Seat 9: chrisdav2926 (16,685)
    Shipocles antes 50
    SIGGYFREUD antes 50
    ivanteacher antes 50
    Kiwis luck antes 50
    Lie Conspiracy antes 50
    DonkeyPele antes 50
    Yeshaya antes 50
    chrisdav2926 antes 50
    DonkeyPele posts the small blind of 250
    Yeshaya posts the big blind of 500
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Shipocles [Ac Ah]
    chrisdav2926 raises to 2,000
    Shipocles calls 2,000
    SIGGYFREUD has 15 seconds left to act
    SIGGYFREUD folds
    ivanteacher folds
    Kiwis luck folds
    Lie Conspiracy has 15 seconds left to act
    Lie Conspiracy folds
    DonkeyPele folds
    Yeshaya folds
    *** FLOP *** [5c Jc Th]
    chrisdav2926 checks
    Shipocles checks
    *** TURN *** [5c Jc Th] [Tc]
    chrisdav2926 checks
    Shipocles checks
    *** RIVER *** [5c Jc Th Tc] [6c]
    chrisdav2926 has 15 seconds left to act
    chrisdav2926 bets 3,000
    Shipocles

    No real reads except the obv 4 x pre which would denote a pretty decent holding I'd assume.
    Is there ever a reason to raise this river... or is it always call/fold, likely always call tho.

    ya its usually a fold, that would be the best way to play this hand as bad as possible throughout
  5. pinishe45 pinishe45 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 7:57pm) in reply to wck117

    i would raise pre,
    bet flop
    bet turn
    as played....i call
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  6. YoOiTsCeWL YoOiTsCeWL is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 8:01pm) in reply to MarleyGroup

     
    Originally Posted by MarleyGroup View Post

    forget the river, bet the flop or the turn

    absolutely, but seriously im shoving on the river. If he had a 10 i would think hes betting out on the hit to either steal it or feel you out(could be wrong, someone tell me if i am) I would say hes got qq or kk maybe aq ak
  7. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 8:04pm) in reply to YoOiTsCeWL

     
    Originally Posted by YoOiTsCeWL View Post

    absolutely, but seriously im shoving on the river. If he had a 10 i would think hes betting out on the hit to either steal it or feel you out(could be wrong, someone tell me if i am) I would say hes got qq or kk maybe aq ak

    Who checks that flop with KK or QQ? I think he mostly has air and rarely has you crushed but doesn't have many hands that could call a river raise.
     
  8. JokersOnYou JokersOnYou is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 9:02pm) in reply to Passiveplay

    if any player raised 4x in first position, I am 3betting aces 100% of the time. As played, I shove river. Do you not have 5 clubs and one being the ace? I don't understand, you're hand is so underrepped and you don't even have that many chips behind you. This $$ better be going all in at some point in this hand.
     
  9. gar2garvin gar2garvin is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 10:09pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

    level?
     
  10. TakeEmOut TakeEmOut is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 10:14pm) in reply to gar2garvin

    bet/get in flop, i'd just call river, unless u think he's bad enough to call w/ lower clubs.
     
  11. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 10:39pm) in reply to TakeEmOut

    Didn't see the four flush I'd raise.
     
  12. Bertrand13 Bertrand13 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2010 (10/23/2010 10:40pm) in reply to TakeEmOut

    raise pre please
     
  13. YoOiTsCeWL YoOiTsCeWL is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 12:30am) in reply to R.J_Legit

    so what are the results?
  14. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 12:40am) in reply to pinishe45

     
    Originally Posted by pinishe45 View Post

    i would raise pre,
    bet flop
    bet turn
    as played....i call

    i agree with this.

     
    Originally Posted by wck117 View Post

    ya its usually a fold, that would be the best way to play this hand as bad as possible throughout

    rough day?
     
  15. kanders10 kanders10 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 1:20am) in reply to AmSlim22

    Looks like JJ to me, but you should get this in, hes never folding ~30BB effective there. shove pre looks best probs
  16. chaz78 chaz78 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 2:39am) in reply to kanders10

    Pretty sure you couldn't have butchered this hand any worse but as played call river your not getting called by worse if u raise ever I don't think
     
  17. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is online now

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 3:11am) in reply to chaz78

    as played just call. this is either 66 for the boat, or a hand that wont call a shove anyway (well i guess the Kc but its wishful thinking). and its an easy pot to try a bluff. if ur only calling w/ a flush he wins 75% of the time.
  18. R.J_Legit R.J_Legit is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 4:00am) in reply to poisoneye1986

    Lol, I realize I've misplayed this hand terribly, as played however, what is the play.
    Obv I should be re raising his 4x open knowing he isn't folding if he's spazzing with that open.
    And ya if he's calling pre or 4xing, then he's never folding a to a single bet on the flop.
    Also dont think KK plays this hand this way from his end.
    He ended up having JJ and ya i've obv played this hand just terrbily
    Edited By: R.J_Legit Oct 24th, 2010 at 04:06 AM
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  19. Gettin Daize Gettin Daize is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 9:00am) in reply to R.J_Legit

    u realize u have the nutflush right????
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  20. Pipes06 Pipes06 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 2:26pm) in reply to Gettin Daize

    Definitely 3b pre, def bet flop.
     
  21. YoOiTsCeWL YoOiTsCeWL is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 4:20pm) in reply to Passiveplay

     
    Originally Posted by Passiveplay View Post

    Who checks that flop with KK or QQ? I think he mostly has air and rarely has you crushed but doesn't have many hands that could call a river raise.

    So now that we know he had JJ, is it okay then that he checked with JJ? or was chrisdave's play just as bad as ship? i want to know now where the villian went wrong in the hand for max value, if he already didn't get it...
  22. R.J_Legit R.J_Legit is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2010 (10/24/2010 7:23pm) in reply to Gettin Daize

     
    Originally Posted by Gettin Daize View Post

    u realize u have the nutflush right????

    This tho.

    Level Tho?

    Flush bro...
    Edited By: R.J_Legit Oct 24th, 2010 at 07:24 PM
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