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78 of Spades hand in WSOP

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  1. richie menlo richie menlo is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 1:28pm)

    I think that is was the biggest hand in the tournament and I want to know what people thought about that fold that was made with the open ender straight flush draw. I think with that much money locked up and if you are trying to win the tournament I just don't see how you can fold that. I don't care if the spade came on the river or not. There was so much money in that pot and so much on the line and Gold had such a huge chip lead that if you wanted to win you were going to have to find a spot like that to get a hold of alot of chips. I think it was one of the worst folds in the history of the WSOP. I just think once you get to three handed you have to start playing to win. Shocking LAYDOWN in my mind.
  2. Imustcall Imustcall is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 1:50pm) in reply to richie menlo

    That is a really tough hand. If Wasicka new it would be heads up, then folding would have a higher return. He probably would have about a 30-40 percent chance of winning 2 million. And that is a lot of money. Calling would create a pretty significant chance of losing the 2 million. If he wins the hand, he still only has about a 15-20% chance of winning the remaining 6 million. So folding was probably the right math play.

    Problem is, winning the world series has got to be worth at least twice that after endorsements.

    Tough when you have just a few minutes to decide between a good chance at 2 million and a marginal chance at 18 million or so. I still keep thinking I would have called, but I have never had to make that decision for 2 million, lol.
  3. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 2:13pm) in reply to Imustcall

    I would've put Gold on two over spades (I think Gold raised preflop and with the 56 out there and you having the 78, if he has a flush draw it's most likely higher than yours) like maybe AQ, KJ, QJ, even 109 of spades so except for two spades you're drawing dead to spades, so you have eight outs after which he can suck out. Initially I thought it was a terrible fold because there's no way I could ever fold a straight flush draw but with the money jump and everything I'm not too surprised he folded. Very tough one. I probably would've insta-called without thinking about it (not sure though, things are diff at the WSOP but with what everybody says about feeling the pressure and playing fast, I probably would've just insta-called I think), been sick to my stomach when I thought about it, then happy when Gold turned over his cards. All in all, a very interesting hand but I really want to know what one of the top players thinks about it.
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  4. IMAFISH4U IMAFISH4U is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 2:28pm) in reply to FenwayKing

    229. Gold limps from the button and Wasicka limps from the small blind. Michael Binger raises to $1,500,000 from the big blind. Both Gold and Wasicka call and the flop comes 1065. Wasicka checks, Binger bets $3,500,000 and Gold moves all in. Wasicka folds and Binger calls. Binger shows A10 and Gold turns over 43 for an open ended straight draw. The turn is the 7 and Gold makes a straight. The river is the Q and Michael Binger is eliminated in 3rd place.
  5. DDSpade DDSpade is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 2:29pm) in reply to FenwayKing

    a chance to win 2 million. it's alot to most of us. we fold for the wrong reasons.
  6. Lvdonkey Lvdonkey is offline

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    Aug 11th, 2006 (8/11/2006 6:50pm) in reply to IMAFISH4U

    I think if he's calling a raise with 78s, and hits his gin flop you have to shove there. He already put what, 10% of his stack in preflop with the call? If he shoves maybe Binger folds, maybe he calls.. but 3 way he's wayyyy +ev.. if he triples up he's got 40 Million? to Gold's 50? I forget stack sizes.
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