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  1. A Bloomfield A Bloomfield is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 10:18pm)

    A couple questions about this hand.

    I'm in a $5 tournament on stars and I've got a pretty healthy stack of chips. I get dealt 99 on the button blinds are at 300/600. It's folded around and the player to my right who has opened a lot of pots raises to 1,800. I think there's a good chance he's just stealing so I re-raise him to $5,000 he calls.

    The flop comes QJ3 rainbow and he checks. Here's where I'm kind of mad at myself, wasn't really paying attention to how much he had in his stack, and I make a c-bet of like 8k into an 11k pot.

    He thinks about it for a long time, and ends up going all-in which is for about another 1k for me to call. At this point I think I'm beat but wasn't paying attention to how much he left, but I'm not folding this size of a pot for another 1k.

    He shows me 99 and my first reaction is how can he go all-in after a pre flop raise and two over cards on the flop. Anyway we split the pot.

    Now here's why I think I made a huge mistake by not paying attention to how much he had. He starts going off on me on how in the world could I call his all-in. He thinking he had any fold equity there makes me wonder if I'd of put him all-in on the flop if he'd of folded.

    Now we get into an argument at the table, I ask him how he could move all-in when he got re raised pre flop, and is facing an 8k bet with 2 overcards on the board.

    The more we argue the more frustrated I get by his reasoning. He tells me he put me at best at AK. So, I'm like now way I have big pockets there, or AQ?

    His response is no way I would of re raised him with big pockets pre flop because I wouldn't of wanted to push him out. Then the AQ post flop, no way I'm betting that much on the flop with top pair top kicker unless I don't want any equity out of my hand. That's why he put me on AK.

    This seems like another hand where after the hand I'm told I wouldn't of played xx like that, but I look back and yes if I had aces I would of re raised pre flop and c-bet. If I had AQ there I'd of bet the same amount after the flop.

    Am I wrong here? How can the guy put me on just AK. Is it that cut and dry? If your playing the hand is there no way you put AA or KK or even AQ in the range of hands I have there?
  2. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 10:21pm) in reply to A Bloomfield

     
    Originally Posted by A Bloomfield View Post

    A couple questions about this hand.

    I'm in a $5 tournament on stars

    theres your problem.
    dont talk to or listen to anyone in these. lol
     
  3. Hughes4 Hughes4 is online now

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 11:05pm) in reply to A Bloomfield

    It's definitely a good thing to argue about it endlessly. Lots of good can come from this
  4. paidchex paidchex is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 11:34pm) in reply to A Bloomfield

    Donkeys always put you on a hand that they can beat.
  5. andrewkr80 andrewkr80 is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 11:37pm) in reply to paidchex

     
    Originally Posted by paidchex View Post

    Donkeys always put you on a hand that they can beat.

    BINGO
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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 1:26am) in reply to A Bloomfield

    You played the hand fine. He also played it fine. When he puts in 1/3 of his stack preflop with pocket nines, he's committed to the flop, and the best course of action is to check and have you cbet with AK, AT, or a lower pocket pair. Him pushing that flop only has the chance to push out hands that he's beating; nothing that he beat's is folding, so there's no reason to push the flop. That being said, his REASONING sounds like it is bad, but his PLAY was fine.

    DON'T EDUCATE THE FISH! And even more importantly, don't take the advice fish give seriously. Just use that info against them if given the opportunity.
     
  7. StevieD561 StevieD561 is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 1:34am) in reply to paidchex

    this is gold.
  8. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 1:52am) in reply to A Bloomfield

    i lol'd, wp op
     
  9. BigStack Husker BigStack Husker is online now

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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 2:15am) in reply to funnygut

    LOL when in doubt just put them on AK and everything will work out fine.
  10. telks telks is offline

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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 4:09am) in reply to BigStack Husker

     
    Originally Posted by BigStack Husker View Post

    LOL when in doubt just put them on AK and everything will work out fine.

    just when there is no A or K on the flop and you have 3rd pair.
    80 1
  11. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Jun 18th, 2009 (6/18/2009 11:38am) in reply to paidchex

     
    Originally Posted by paidchex View Post

    Donkeys always put you on a hand that they can beat.

    I'm a donkey :)
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