Full Tilt Poker Game #20002996346: Super Stack $10K Guarantee (153088811), Table 157 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:47:53 ET - 2010/04/11
Seat 1: supa meng1 (9,351)
Seat 2: Tossing2die (12,429)
Seat 3: akriatidi (46,794)
Seat 4: eej33 (16,218)
Seat 5: Slingtown (32,995)
Seat 6: lenbBlya (12,147)
Seat 7: 79 HAMMER (18,856)
Seat 8: jaykrz (58,222)
Seat 9: Sly Vision (48,743)
supa meng1 antes 100
Tossing2die antes 100
akriatidi antes 100
eej33 antes 100
Slingtown antes 100
lenbBlya antes 100
79 HAMMER antes 100
jaykrz antes 100
Sly Vision antes 100
eej33 posts the small blind of 400
Slingtown posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Slingtown [Ts As]
lenbBlya folds
79 HAMMER folds
jaykrz raises to 1,875
Sly Vision folds
supa meng1 folds
Tossing2die folds
akriatidi folds
eej33 folds
Slingtown calls 1,075
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qd 8h]
Slingtown checks
jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz bets 2,890
Slingtown raises to 7,999
jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz calls 5,109
*** TURN *** [Ad Qd 8h] [Jh]
Slingtown checks
jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz bets 8,250
Slingtown ???

Okay. I was really lost in this hand in general and think I may have played this really poorly so am looking for advice on all streets as to how I handled this and how I shoujld have proceeded.

Background (important). Villan (jaykrz) has been pretty quiet with a big stack. I haven't got a read on him other than he's been pretty tight and solid. we are apporaching the money bubble with about 350 or so people left.

My image at the table is very aggressive. I had been reshoving a short stack on two players at the table (one I took out) and eej3 who had been limping and oflding a ton so basically i had shoved over them any time they had limped and won without any showdown. the first player (matty something) I was just able to double against him when he limped 66 and i reshoved a9s which put me at the stack i'm at now. that was only like two or three hands ago. so i have an agressive image and have showed down A9s.

So whats your play not in this hand given all those factors.

 

Originally Posted by MondaymorninQB

If he is a tight-solid player, I can't see him calling your 5100 raise with air. KQ is less likely then Ax. If he has any of the AK, AQ, or AJ, then you are and have been dominated. And with your table image of being aggressive and pushing with semi weak A9s, through his eyes you are more likely to call off his bluffs so he wouldn't be as confident in putting out his 3rd bet of the hand on the turn. I can't see your A10 being ahead of many hands here. I'd fold.

any opinions on my check raise?

3bet pre to about 4.5-5K to see where you stand..don't really want to play this hand oop. As played I check raise flop. Have to fold that turn, don't see any way you are ahead at this point

 

Originally Posted by Slingtownorbust

Full Tilt Poker Game #20002996346: Super Stack $10K Guarantee (153088811), Table 157 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:47:53 ET - 2010/04/11
Seat 1: supa meng1 (9,351)
Seat 2: Tossing2die (12,429)
Seat 3: akriatidi (46,794)
Seat 4: eej33 (16,218)
Seat 5: Slingtown (32,995)
Seat 6: lenbBlya (12,147)
Seat 7: 79 HAMMER (18,856)
Seat 8: jaykrz (58,222)
Seat 9: Sly Vision (48,743)
supa meng1 antes 100
Tossing2die antes 100
akriatidi antes 100
eej33 antes 100
Slingtown antes 100
lenbBlya antes 100
79 HAMMER antes 100
jaykrz antes 100
Sly Vision antes 100
eej33 posts the small blind of 400
Slingtown posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Slingtown [Ts As]
lenbBlya folds
79 HAMMER folds
jaykrz raises to 1,875
Sly Vision folds
supa meng1 folds
Tossing2die folds
akriatidi folds
eej33 folds
Slingtown calls 1,075

I think this call is fine with your stack, although, if he really has been very tight, you could lay it down. I don't think I do tho.
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qd 8h]
Slingtown checks
jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz bets 2,890
Slingtown raises to 7,999

I don't like this raise for a number of reasons. First, this is an extremely wet board that is likely to have hit nearly his entire range. Second, you have considerable showdown value, but you have absolutely no showdown value when you are called here.

jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz calls 5,109
*** TURN *** [Ad Qd 8h] [Jh]
Slingtown checks

Given your line, you are representing a hand, but really what could you have. Deep in tourneys, a lot of people won't put you on a huge ace in this spot bc you would probably 3bet pre, so your line looks like a tricky flush draw that is trying to get paid when it hits, a set of 888 and an ace, but not AJ+ (imo) and that's about it. So I almost think you have to lead here if you are going to convince him that you have 888 - most people are not check-raising two streets with 888 here, but I don't know.
jaykrz has 15 seconds left to act
jaykrz bets 8,250
Slingtown ???

Given your line and the pot size, this looks like a value bet so I'm thinking you can only fold.


IMO, Check/Call flop and check/fold turn.

Okay. I was really lost in this hand in general and think I may have played this really poorly so am looking for advice on all streets as to how I handled this and how I shoujld have proceeded.

Background (important). Villan (jaykrz) has been pretty quiet with a big stack. I haven't got a read on him other than he's been pretty tight and solid. we are apporaching the money bubble with about 350 or so people left.

My image at the table is very aggressive. I had been reshoving a short stack on two players at the table (one I took out) and eej3 who had been limping and oflding a ton so basically i had shoved over them any time they had limped and won without any showdown. the first player (matty something) I was just able to double against him when he limped 66 and i reshoved a9s which put me at the stack i'm at now. that was only like two or three hands ago. so i have an agressive image and have showed down A9s.

So whats your play not in this hand given all those factors.

Poker would be a lot of easier if you all just removed the phrase "raise for information" from your vocabulary. You could replace it with "turning made hands into bluffs" if you wanted.