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A9o BB 6bbs facing 8bb CO shove - 4 players til the bubble bursts...

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  1. BscHons BscHons is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:11pm)

    Not many reads on villain - running at 20/20 after only 10 hands.

    I hear time and again that we want to have chips going INTO the money/final table. With that in mind - despite the fact that the CO might be shoving a little narrower as we are on the bubble - can we find a fold here? OR does the above not apply with 5bbs as it is very unlikely we can win the tournament, and should be just folding into the money?

    We have chips invested and a hand that I feel is doing well vs. his shoving range.

    Thoughts...?


    pokerstars Hand #80901679395: Tournament #562532184, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (500/1000) - 2012/05/23 20:24:56 WET [2012/05/23 15:24:56 ET]
    Table '562532184 42' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: zz300 (8444 in chips)
    Seat 2: mihkell18 (21114 in chips)
    Seat 3: jimarian (24837 in chips)
    Seat 4: Mércurial (6735 in chips)
    Seat 5: 3dfish (4918 in chips)
    Seat 6: SamoanBookie (8350 in chips)
    Seat 7: Floyd Lapp (13972 in chips)
    Seat 8: DonPokey (57874 in chips)
    Seat 9: anisunshine (42416 in chips)
    zz300: posts the ante 125
    mihkell18: posts the ante 125
    jimarian: posts the ante 125
    Mércurial: posts the ante 125
    3dfish: posts the ante 125
    SamoanBookie: posts the ante 125
    Floyd Lapp: posts the ante 125
    DonPokey: posts the ante 125
    anisunshine: posts the ante 125
    jimarian: posts small blind 500
    Mércurial: posts big blind 1000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Mércurial [Ad 9h]
    3dfish: folds
    SamoanBookie: folds
    Floyd Lapp: folds
    DonPokey: folds
    anisunshine: folds
    zz300: raises 7319 to 8319 and is all-in
    mihkell18: folds
    jimarian: folds
    Mércurial....
  2. BenFaz BenFaz is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:20pm) in reply to BscHons

    If you want to just fold to get into the money maybe your playing out of your bankroll limits? Most people wont think about the bubble in the low stakes tournaments

    A9o is ahead of his shoving range there he should be shoving Ax 22+ K8+ QT+ stuff like that

    If he seems really nitty you could possible assign him a nittier range and fold and open jam in the next orbit but i think this is a decent enough spot to get your chips in.

    Oh and when you say its unlikely your going to win.. if you have 1 single chip you have a chance to win ive come 2nd in a tournament once coming back from having 1/3rd of an ante.
    Edited By: BenFaz May 24th, 2012 at 04:21 PM
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  3. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:26pm) in reply to BenFaz

    Definitely call. Even against a somewhat tight shoving range, you have about 50% equity. Given the dead money, it's an easy call.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.170% 45.82% 04.35% 2796186528 265523718.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+ }
    Hand 1: 49.830% 45.48% 04.35% 2775417492 265523718.00 { A9o }

    And you're ahead if he's shoving a bit wider
    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 47.880% 44.13% 03.75% 3201006756 271882296.00 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, A2o+, K8o+, QTo+, JTo }
    Hand 1: 52.120% 48.37% 03.75% 3508548396 271882296.00 { A9o }
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  4. DAT612 DAT612 is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:45pm) in reply to tyson219

    Snap call for me. Can't be thinking about the bubble, play for first, you crush his cut-off shoving range whens he's sitting with 8bb
  5. pokerscrub1 pokerscrub1 is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:50pm) in reply to DAT612

    He is probably shoving any A, any two broadway cards, and some suited connectors. We are ahead of his range. Call all day
     
  6. BscHons BscHons is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:57pm) in reply to tyson219

     
    Originally Posted by tyson219 View Post

    Definitely call. Even against a somewhat tight shoving range, you have about 50% equity. Given the dead money, it's an easy call.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 50.170% 45.82% 04.35% 2796186528 265523718.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+ }
    Hand 1: 49.830% 45.48% 04.35% 2775417492 265523718.00 { A9o }

    And you're ahead if he's shoving a bit wider
    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 47.880% 44.13% 03.75% 3201006756 271882296.00 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, A2o+, K8o+, QTo+, JTo }
    Hand 1: 52.120% 48.37% 03.75% 3508548396 271882296.00 { A9o }

    I'm just being results oriented :)

    I called and he got there with AQ. I am never folding here - just wanted to be sure that I was right.
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  7. BscHons BscHons is offline

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    May 24th, 2012 (5/24/2012 4:59pm) in reply to BenFaz

     
    Originally Posted by BenFaz View Post

    If you want to just fold to get into the money maybe your playing out of your bankroll limits? Most people wont think about the bubble in the low stakes tournaments

    A9o is ahead of his shoving range there he should be shoving Ax 22+ K8+ QT+ stuff like that

    If he seems really nitty you could possible assign him a nittier range and fold and open jam in the next orbit but i think this is a decent enough spot to get your chips in.

    Oh and when you say its unlikely your going to win.. if you have 1 single chip you have a chance to win ive come 2nd in a tournament once coming back from having 1/3rd of an ante.

    In truth, I used to play more like you describe above, but now I am always gunning for the win/1st-3rd and I try not to lose sight of that.

    True - I've gone from .5bb to 20bbs before, but sadly no win!
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  8. PocketSims PocketSims is offline

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    May 27th, 2012 (5/27/2012 11:26am) in reply to BscHons

    yes i call here everytime . i just think is my A9 better then a late pos shv when he has 8 bbs its a total snap call.
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