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  1. When I was in Vegas for the WSOP Main Event a couple years ago (the year Hachem won), I kind of buddied up with one of the guys at my first day table. We played together almost all day and went out for a couple drinks after day one completed. He asked what limits I played. I told him 15-30 and 30-60. He asked if I ever played heads up or higher stakes. I said not really but asked why.

    He said that he knew some of the guys at Absolute Poker (pretty new site back then) and they were looking for prop players to play 100-200 and 200-400 heads up and short to "keep the games going and accomodate those players." I told him I might be interested and got his business card. At first I thought he was part of it and figured I would call him. When I finally got around to calling him a few weeks after the event, he told me over the phone that it was actually not his gig but to contact some other guy who was with the company. Apparently they had been recruiting guys at the WSOP. I never got around to it as it seemed shady but this is all seeming really weird in light of recent events.

    I don't have any further info on the subject but thought I would share this as it might be relevant. Maybe these prop players were actually given access to superuser accounts?

    p.s. This is the reason I've never played on Absolute ftr.
  2. Their prop program was well-known. Whether it was on the up-and-up is another story, but it's been semi-public for years.
     
  3. I have friends that are/were AP prop players, and to my knowledge they still have them. It wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't deny that kind of thing. 100% sure they do/did not have access to anything 'extra', just got all their rake back.
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  4. Yeah, nothing wrong with prop players. A common and well known practice by casinos for years to keep games going and/or open up games.
  5. What's wrong with prop players?
  6. Theres nothing wrong with being a prop player. I had a friend that was a prop there and if I recall you had to play certain amount of hours a week and you got 100 percent rakeback.
  7. Is the grinder still with AP?
  8. Yeah, I thought it was a stretch and knew a few sites used props, but I thought it was odd that they were specifically looking for props at high stakes heads up and short handed. I don't like the idea of prop players at any rate. No problem, though, and thanks for the responses!!
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  9. Just to be clear (I think you understand this, but I'm not sure if all our readers do), prop players are not the same as "house players" (i.e. shills). I know a number of people who have propped on AP and other well-known sites, and basically they're just being paid an hourly rate to participate in short-handed games to keep those games going. This is a commonly done practice in a lot of live casinos as well. The one thing that sucks about games with props, of course, is that they're usually extremely tight games. Just about all prop players are solid grinder types to begin.
     
  10. Grinder now works @ Planet hollywood casino and poker room in Las Vegas.
     
  11. thanks for the clarification, because I was just about to ask for that definition.