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then I suggest you start browsing first before accusing people.
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Whether Jon is a great player or person isnt the issue.. And they are not the same thing.. Hes throwing out a name and not putting any type of evidence behind it. Its common knowledge of Annie's and Phil's association with UB.. Its not common of David Ulliot's..
Edit I just read that devilfish was an old UB pro. But there were alot of them.. Esfandiari to name another. Are we to assume that every UB pro from back in the day is in on this? KrazyKanuck? Mark Gregorich. -
Just curious as to what is wrong with speculating in a pubilc forum. He obv gave no evidence but it seems as if he was more saying "lets guess" who the other names implicated might be(and we do know there are other names), absolutely nothing wrong with that......
Originally Posted by AFink93
Whether Jon is a great player or person isnt the issue.. And they are not the same thing.. Hes throwing out a name and not putting any type of evidence behind it. Its common knowledge of Annie's and Phil's association with UB.. Its not common of David Ulliot's..
Edit I just read that devilfish was an old UB pro. But there were alot of them.. Esfandiari to name another. Are we to assume that every UB pro from back in the day is in on this? KrazyKanuck? Mark Gregorich.
Back on topic, Devilfish just seems to easy of a target as sleezy as every pro knows he is, but while I have heard many stories of him being a douche-bag prick I haven't heard anything suggesting that he has a past of doing unethical shit on the poker tables. Thats pretty irrelevant as he could just as easily be involved. I would more venture to say other names would be clear friends of Hamiltons, maybe not even well known pros. As we know there are tons of grinding pros who are friends with the bigger name players. Maybe this is the case here idk..... -
The fact that I am obv. a very bad internet poker player doesn't mean that I don't know jack about integrity and etiquette. In fact, integrity is my job. But on topic: why would Phill H. try to ruin his entire lifework by scamming people out of money that he can also win at the pokertables but then with a lot more glory?
Originally Posted by wild_ride
i suggest you stop browsing so much and start getting some poker results before you talk like that to a great player and person
Why would Russ Hamilton have let anyone in on his scheme? Hey Annie, hey Phill, here's a great way of making money... Don't worry we won't go to jail because internet poker isn't regulated in the US anyway....
Now, if you were to have speculated that Freddy Deeb was involved.... ooops, what am I saying now? -
devilfish is a seedy looking character, thats about all he is guilty of as far as we know for now. i would love to give that blonde english chick he was hanging out with in vegas this summer the business though.
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All i got out of that is that you dont care about integrity or etiquette, but you are a hellmuth and annie fanboy that got offended their names were mentioned.
Originally Posted by aad
The fact that I am obv. a very bad internet poker player doesn't mean that I don't know jack about integrity and etiquette. In fact, integrity is my job. But on topic: why would Phill H. try to ruin his entire lifework by scamming people out of money that he can also win at the pokertables but then with a lot more glory?Originally Posted by wild_ride
i suggest you stop browsing so much and start getting some poker results before you talk like that to a great player and person
Why would Russ Hamilton have let anyone in on his scheme? Hey Annie, hey Phill, here's a great way of making money... Don't worry we won't go to jail because internet poker isn't regulated in the US anyway....
Now, if you were to have speculated that Freddy Deeb was involved.... ooops, what am I saying now? -
link, info...?
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@mattg1983: No, not a Phill H or Annie D fannyboy. I left UB months ago. I'm a fan of Daniel N./Gus H./Erick Lindgren. Btw I am just as keen to know which outher douche bags were involved.
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If David Ulliot were to be implicated, would he then stop spewing his "ass pull" line about playing cards with the Triads?
I have heard that so many times it makes me puke.









