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advice for a newer player plz.

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  1. rustangq rustangq is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 6:33pm)

    If I have the second shortest stack at the ft should I play aggressive or very tight? In this situation moving up a spot would = about 5% of my BR. Does that matter or should I just play to win?

    I am working on building up but have a very small BR right now.
  2. Bonestein Bonestein is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 6:41pm) in reply to rustangq

    Classic poker answer- it depends.

    How many chips do you have? What are the blinds? How many less chips does the shortest stack have than you? How many more chips do the next couple bigger stacks have than you? What are their positions in relation to you? How have THEY been playing, tight or aggressive? How have the biggest stacks been playing, tight or aggressive (need to know so you can figure out a range of hands that you can push with)? How many players are left (is this the beginning of the final table, or are you down to like 5)?

    In general though, if you are the second shortest stack when the final table begins, and the blinds are getting high (like average stack is say 12 or 13 BBs or less), it's time to get aggressive. You have more to lose by letting yourself get blinded down.
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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 7:02pm) in reply to rustangq

    It definitely depends, but you should be aggressive in most situations. Don't steal with trash from early position, but when you have a chance to steal with a reasonable hand (ie small pp or suited connectors or better hands) you should probably go for it in late or even middle position unless the short stack is all-in on the bb very soon or some other unique situation has come up. The aggression may help you win, but in this case it's about getting enough chips to move up a few spots and see what happens from there. Moving up a few more spots might increase your BR drastically.
  4. rustangq rustangq is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 8:25pm) in reply to rustangq

    Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate it. this is the hand I went out on.
    so I guess it was the right choice.

    pokerstars Game #7387402835: Tournament #37770029, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em
    No Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2006/12/10 - 18:26:24 (ET)
    Table '37770029 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: 4KingFlush (39825 in chips)
    Seat 2: rustangq (22170 in chips)
    Seat 4: Ryounuts? (36565 in chips)
    Seat 5: Tuffy Cat (50792 in chips)
    Seat 7: poppintags08 (47320 in chips)
    Seat 8: throppster (12115 in chips)
    Seat 9: charder30 (61213 in chips)
    4KingFlush: posts the ante 75
    rustangq: posts the ante 75
    Ryounuts?: posts the ante 75
    Tuffy Cat: posts the ante 75
    poppintags08: posts the ante 75
    throppster: posts the ante 75
    charder30: posts the ante 75
    Ryounuts?: posts small blind 800
    Tuffy Cat: posts big blind 1600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to rustangq [Ac Qd]
    poppintags08: folds
    throppster: folds
    charder30: raises 2385 to 3985
    4KingFlush: folds
    rustangq: calls 3985
    Ryounuts?: folds
    Tuffy Cat: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jd 5c 3d]
    charder30: bets 15655
    rustangq: raises 2455 to 18110 and is all-in
    charder30: calls 2455
    Drifter-9 [observer] said, "4"
    *** TURN *** [Jd 5c 3d] [Th]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd 5c 3d Th] [8d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    charder30: shows [4d Td] (a flush, Jack high)
    rustangq: shows [Ac Qd] (high card Ace)
    rustangq said, "gg"
    charder30 collected 47115 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 47115 | Rake 0
    Board [Jd 5c 3d Th 8d]
    Seat 1: 4KingFlush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: rustangq (button) showed [Ac Qd] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 4: Ryounuts? (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Tuffy Cat (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: poppintags08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: throppster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: charder30 showed [4d Td] and won (47115) with a flush, Jack
    high
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  5. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 8:27pm) in reply to rustangq

    this is the opposite of agressive... you need to get all in (best case) pre or fold at some point sir. Keep playing and learning and reading.. gl at the tables
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  6. threeven threeven is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 8:40pm) in reply to rustangq

    You want to be aggressive, but you dont want to build big pots without the goods. Raise a lot preflop from late position, but if you get played back just give it up.

    In this hand you essentially called off your chips. If you reraised preflop instead of calling you would have increased your stack by 30% right there.
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  7. rustangq rustangq is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2006 (12/10/2006 8:47pm) in reply to threeven

    so instead of just calling the first bet I should go all in there. and he probably folds.

    thanks again for the input.
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