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sigh, are you basing this on the original scenario or the revised numbers>>? in the original scenario, the equity you gain can never make up for what you lose the times that your AK doesnt hold up. thats what it all really boils down to. the risk far outweighs the benefit.
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KingPariah,
First of all i never said that i wasn't going to change my mind. Secondly, i wasn't the one who said, and i quote "I call all day everyday and twice on sunday," that was BigSwing. Thirdly, I don't know how people in this thread think the blind situation is 100/200.. I never said that, I said 200/400. so if you fold this AKs then you leave yourself with about 6 BBs. falling into 4th place.. People are getting on my ass for nothing.. From this thread I just wanted to see what all of the top pros would do in this situation.. -
msuper73.. ur completely wrong.. i posted the situation right after the OP.. so stfu.. OP was at 4:08 this post was 4:22.. long before jennifear did the calculations.. yes i said 4500 3k 3k 3k, but that's not much of a difference from 5k 2.8k 2.8k 2.8k when i clarified that again 30 min later.. also before jennifear did her calculations..
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</TD><TD>Re(2): Aim convo with Ryanb9..He told me to asked all the pros this question.. just read
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD bgColor=#ffffff></TD><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>9 handed sng.. he's chip leader 4 pple left chip everyones close except chip leader has 4500.. he's been shoving every hand and you get AK.. so he open shoves..FOLD.. FUCK NO </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Edit: LOL @ this being a brag post for being in a convo with b9.. lol
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^^^ makes no difference. ICM applies to all levels against all players regardless of their or your skill and/or whether they or you understand ICM or not. ICM always applies.
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<SPAN> <SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:42:16 AM):</SPAN> well, make it 6k, 3k, 3k, and 2k
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:42:21 AM):</SPAN> like it was in the sng i played
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:42:44 AM):</SPAN> lol
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:42:47 AM):</SPAN> post it =P
<SPAN>DonkeyFish21 (1:41:25 AM):</SPAN> so u say fold AK on the bubble? to someone who has shoved every hand?
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:29 AM):</SPAN> no
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:31 AM):</SPAN> i say
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:37 AM):</SPAN> if you are in 2nd - 3rd place
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:42 AM):</SPAN> out of 4 people left
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:47 AM):</SPAN> and chip leader shoves
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:55 AM):</SPAN> like he has every hand last 100 hands
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:43:58 AM):</SPAN> and u have AK
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:44:01 AM):</SPAN> u have to fold
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:44:10 AM):</SPAN> is what im saying
<SPAN>DonkeyFish21 (1:42:24 AM):</SPAN> lol.. so what kind of hand do u put him on theN?
<SPAN>DonkeyFish21 (1:42:31 AM):</SPAN> AA every time?
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:44:57 AM):</SPAN> he can have 78
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:45:03 AM):</SPAN> 'n show u
<SPAN>ryanb9snowborder (1:45:06 AM):</SPAN> u still cant call
<SPAN>DonkeyFish21 (1:43:30 AM):</SPAN> if u wanna win the tourney you have to call.. all fucking day
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so youre just going to pretend this ^^ was never posted, which is supposedly where this whole thing originated?? This is what started the entire thread. and your statement is wrong based on the chip counts ryanb gave.
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