None of the alternatives here are particularly appealing. Folding seems weak. Flatting really doesnt help you much as there is a player to act and you will end up check/folding a lot of flops. Jamming is going to fold out anything you are ahead off. Raise/folding is obviously awful.

Really not sure...maybe fold and dont tell anyone.

i guess it just depends on the read u have on rebecca15 if no read then for me id never raise or shove maybe fold probably flat call but i dont wanna get my whole stack in this early in a mtt for a flip against a pair wat did u did u do what was the outcome

 

Originally Posted by The Lab Rat

gimme dat becky

Guessing "Gimmie Dat Becky" means Get it in??? LOL Plies might have played this better than I did.

 

Originally Posted by voltastyllo

i guess it just depends on the read u have on rebecca15 if no read then for me id never raise or shove maybe fold probably flat call but i dont wanna get my whole stack in this early in a mtt for a flip against a pair wat did u did u do what was the outcome

Full Tilt Poker Game #23425697329: $12,500 Guarantee (180891083), Table 4 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 05:33:54 ET - 2010/08/28
Seat 1: fostec_1985 (1,420)
Seat 2: rebecca15 (6,890)
Seat 3: Pronssiveistos (5,895)
Seat 4: paradee (3,740)
Seat 5: Albert Chuns (6,775)
Seat 6: natashaluz (6,830)
Seat 7: Hot Pie 30 (4,835)
Seat 8: ty4cash1987 (5,230)
Seat 9: cmun82 (4,220)
Pronssiveistos posts the small blind of 60
paradee posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Albert Chuns [Kd Ac]
Albert Chuns raises to 320
natashaluz calls 320
Hot Pie 30 folds
ty4cash1987 folds
cmun82 folds
fostec_1985 folds
rebecca15 raises to 1,460
Pronssiveistos folds
paradee folds
Albert Chuns has 15 seconds left to act
Albert Chuns has requested TIME
Albert Chuns raises to 6,775, and is all in
natashaluz has 15 seconds left to act
natashaluz folds
rebecca15 calls 5,315
Albert Chuns shows [Kd Ac]
rebecca15 shows [Jc Jh]
*** FLOP *** [9s 4d 8c]
*** TURN *** [9s 4d 8c] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [9s 4d 8c 5h] [7h]
Albert Chuns shows Ace King high
rebecca15 shows a pair of Jacks
rebecca15 wins the pot (14,050) with a pair of Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14,050 | Rake 0
Board: [9s 4d 8c 5h 7h]
Seat 1: fostec_1985 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: rebecca15 (button) showed [Jc Jh] and won (14,050) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: Pronssiveistos (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: paradee (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Albert Chuns showed [Kd Ac] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 6: natashaluz folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Hot Pie 30 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ty4cash1987 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: cmun82 didn't bet (folded)

Obv I shoved. And She " Gave me Dat Becky".

 

Originally Posted by The Spewtard

Don't think a random is ever raise folding (esp that much) here pre antes. On that note, I fold pre.

yea I realize why this is such a bad play. I just couldnt find my fold button.

 

Originally Posted by Adam013085

In a lower buy in Ill get it in 100% of the time and race here for a stack

I totally disagree with this, it should be the other way round

Totally should have folded. I was happy when she snapped with JJ obv cause defintly didnt want to see KK+ lol but defintly understand why this is a bad play given it is so early and I didnt have much info on this Lil girl. And I think that I could have easily found some other spots. Cause I still would have at least 6k behind and I only put in fucking 2.6bb's. Ty for the input.

 

Originally Posted by telks

holy nits

REBECCA15

I flat and see a flop.....i dunno.....def. not folding AK for 1/5 of stack and jamming would not be wise either. Whats wrong with flatting here? Any inputs?

 

Originally Posted by themukinnutz

I flat and see a flop.....i dunno.....def. not folding AK for 1/5 of stack and jamming would not be wise either. Whats wrong with flatting here? Any inputs?

Too big a portion of your stack to flat and check/fold any non A or K hi flops. Rebecca is just never folding once she 3bets, so we're almost calling an all in against a range that should be QQ+,AK. (although she had JJ here).

Don't think a random is ever raise folding (esp that much) here pre antes. On that note, I fold pre.

^this^

i really dont get why u guys are saying a random in a donkament is not raise folding here, and also saying if its a random with no info ur going to fold, i do the opposite with no info i shove just cuz i assume everyone in a donkament is an idiot until they prove it otherwise and i think they can play....neways i come across tons of times everyday where a situation like this comes up, and i just jam my aa/kk or whatever assuming hes gonna call and hoping my hand will hold, then the 3better just folds, i dont know wtf they have or wtf they are doing, but i dont think theres anyway folding ak here is the right play against a random in a donkament in this spot

Muck it... is there a need to be gambling your tourney life with Ace hi?
I'm sure you can find a better spot to get in.
What are you putting him/her on?? I'd say a pp for sure...

[QUOTE=thearthurdog;5709587]...not sure I could find the fold button in that spot.[QUOTE]

There's a fold button ?!?

On a different note, is rebecca's play here the right one? Do you 3bet/call with JJ here or just flat pre?

I get so tilted by proponents of shoving here. Seriously... 56.5 BBs all in pre flop with AceKing??!!! That's ridiculous, imo. It's not a thinking person's strategy without solid reads that we are ahead of villian... which we have ZERO reason to believe. I'm SNAP folding here, as it's just far too early to want to take this ridiculous risk for our tournament life. And for those that are getting it in here, I suggest scratch tickets or slot machines for a hobby, as "hoping" for a freaking coinflip for over 55 big blinds is not my idea of intelligent play, and is simply a sign of a gambooooool. Horribad shove imo.