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  1. Figure this hand would play itself but I'm having all sorts of problems playing this...Probably because I haven't hit shit with it the last handful of times that I have had it...What would you do in the following situations? ($50 +5 SNGs on party)

    #1: Blinds are 50-100 and UTG raises to 400...You have about 1500 as does the raiser (pre-raise) and you pick up AKo in the SB...Do you just call here or do you move in?

    #2: Blinds are 30-60, there is a limper in EP and a raiser to your direct right who raises to 250 (you are in the cutoff)...Raiser has 2000 pre raise and you have about 1750...Again call or re-raise or hell even fold?

    I get caught up on when to push with AK, when to raise and when just to call...Any advice would be appreciated...
  2. Big Slick
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    I discussed ace-rag in detail in a previous column. This time I’ll talk about the most overplayed hand in poker, A-K. Wow! I’ve been waiting for a big hand like this for an hour! Finally, I have a monster. Or do I? Yes, maybe you do, but it’s all in how you play the hand and when. Many players just can’t wait to get all their chips in with it. Don’t fall in love with it.

    What makes big slick such a good starting hand? Hell, it’s just a drawing hand and mathematically, even a pair of deuces is the favorite preflop. First, get that best-hand-preflop thought process out of your head. Who cares? You are holding two cards out of a total of seven. How far ahead can you really be? The best is 80-20 with a pair over a pair (and you’re not in that situation). Learn to play the situation and the board and stop worrying if you have the best hand. OK, now back to the question: Why is it so good? It is good because of perception and equity.

    Many players feel it is so good because, unless your opponent has A-A or K-K , you are roughly, at worst, 50 percent to win. But, that also means that you are 50 percent to lose in that situation. So, is that really very good? I don’t think so — at least not in many situations. As I always say, follow your reads. What size stack do you have in comparison to your opponent and in relation to the blind level? When should you take that race? Can you make your opponent fold? I see so many players overplay A-K and lose the tournament thinking they did nothing wrong. Here’s a specific example of what not to do: It’s early on in a tournament, the blinds are low, and all players are about even in chips. Early position calls, next guy makes a small raise, late position raises 30-40 percent of his stack, and you have A-K in the small blind and push all in. I think this is a horrible play at this point in a tournament for many reasons. First, there is certainly at least one pair out there with that action so at best you are a 50 percent favorite to win. Second, it’s so early in the tournament, why risk elimination now on a coin flip at best? Third, you just made the biggest mistake you can make.

    You waited until someone was pot-committed before you tried to push him out. He may have enough chips left to fold and play on but he is likely mentally committed to that pot and is not going to fold. So, now you are in a race against the big raiser who has J-J or Q-Q and if you lose, you are out. (This happens often late in tournaments as well.) Do not wait until someone is committed to the pot before you push for your tournament life.

    So, when should you aggress? It’s all about perception and equity, as I said earlier. For example, a player raises a standard three times the big blind. Based on your read of that player, you are pretty sure he has a good hand like A-K, A-Q, or a medium pair. Reraising that player with A-K makes sense as he will have a hard time calling or racing for his entire stack even if he perceives that you hold only A-K. Now the decision is on him to race in a 50 percent situation. He also has to worry that he is a 4-to-1 dog if he is holding a middle pair. You have forced him into the situation of having to make the call and win the race. That’s not an enviable position. So, the point is to always use your equity with A-K to make others decide to race. Always try to be the aggressor with A-K and not the caller. And reraising a pot-committed player is essentially only calling. There are, of course, some situations in which calling with A-K does make sense. Early in a tournament when just picking up the blinds has no relative value and to disguise your hand strength may be a time you choose to call only. Late in a tournament against a smaller stack that you feel is getting desperate and will push with any ace, and so on. The bottom line is choose whom you play A-K against very carefully. Realize that it is likely going to be a race and avoid racing for your tournament life if at all possible. Your best “out” is to get them to fold.

    To summarize:

    • Aggress with A-K preflop but don’t call all-in bets with it.

    • Aggress heavily enough to give your opponent the opportunity to fold but not so much that you commit yourself and only dominant hands like aces and kings can call you.

    • Don’t aggress after someone is pot-committed if losing that amount is devastating to your stack.

    • Don’t race with it for your tournament life, especially early on.

    • Most of the value of A-K is the ability to make others fold so use it when they are able to fold, not when they can’t fold.

    • Choose your opponent carefully according to your read and the situation.

    Good luck, be mindful, and stop overplaying that hand!
     
  3. 1st hand I pushed ran into QQ, I was really not reading a pocket pair that strong with that raise...He floppd his set and I turned my measly pair of Aces...

    2nd hand I just called and mucked on a non-descript flop...I was thinking about coming over the top but I didn't feel like playing AK that early in the tourney for an all-in bet if he came over the top...

    That's where I have problems with that hand...Late in the tourney I'll gamble with it when the table gets a bit shorter and the blinds have gone up, but early in the tourney is it +EV to risk 1500-2000 chips when the blinds are just 30/60??? I seem to be the only one with this issue as I see the push all the time with AK at that level of blinds from stacks that are relatively deep...
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  4. Thanks for the article Todd...I kinda see where I made my mistakes on both hands...First one really didn't have enough chips to make the initial raiser think about folding (think he had to call like 1100 into a pot of >2000), even if he did have a middle pair which is what I thought based on his 4x raise...And the 2nd hand I wussed out and didn't come over the top of the initial raiser when I think I could have and had the chips to fold if he came back over me...
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  5. Hey Todd, teach me a little here :-) Do you agree or disagree with my advice? In both, I advicate being the aggressor and moving in, in both cases I believe the other player has chips to fold unless he has a premium hand...I was taught that calling a raise preflop with AK was bad....do you agree or disagree with my advice above and do you agree or disagree that calling preflop with AK is bad? Thanks and glad to see you around again :-)
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  6. I absolutely don't agree with moving in when blinds are 15/30 or whatever he said. It does depend on type of tourney and things like that. IOW, I would do it in a 50 dollar freezeout or a sng online because I don't care enough to do otherwise. My article for the most part, is in a MEANINGFUL tournament. Think like the WSOP 1500 buyin or something. If someone raises 400 chips of 1500 total early, they are not letting their QQ or JJ go. Or worse AA or KK. I don't call there either. I fold preflop and have not spent one chip. Think more tactically/strategically. Isn't there a better spot to come to get your chips in than in a push and pray race situation? I think so. Why on earth would you risk 1000 or 1500 chips when the blinds are 30 on a drawing hand? YUCK> In fact, if in early position, I would limp with AK at that blind level. FIrstly, if I miss my draw, it cost me next to nothing and if I hit my draw, it is well disguised to extract the most post flop. Play small pot poker when blinds are small, very simple.
     
  7. Cool, that's what I always am hearing guys like you and Sheets say "pick your spots, pick your spots..THINK when you are playing"...I'm trying my god damndest to do that better...Trust me when I say I don't even think anybody is throwing away a pocket pair to my reraise all-in in the first situation but that's a totally different story there...When I just called in that 2nd situation I was thinking about the "pick your spots" thing and I DIDN'T want to risk all of my chips on AK that early (in fact if memory serves me correctly I ended up winning that particular SNG), but that doesn't excuse the fact that I played that hand way too passively...I needed to either re-raise it to ~800ish or so (but then again I would have to know that would get him to lay his hand down) or muck it, calling was a shit option...
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  8. excellant points T-dawg...thanks for the schooling..
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