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AK play or fold?

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  1. GusTheHun GusTheHun is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 9:15am)

    With 14K chips Im in the top 20, average chips around 4K..

    What's the play? and please explaine why.. thanks..

    pokerstars Game #26566328440: Tournament #150908048, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/03/31 8:19:59 ET
    Table '150908048 49' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: skorpija75 (1705 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 2: sedi117 (10128 in chips)
    Seat 3: macndosch (17405 in chips)
    Seat 4: eclair13 (4890 in chips)
    Seat 5: bt191985 (7821 in chips)
    Seat 6: zazie42 (9595 in chips)
    Seat 7: Duchy Duke7 (3148 in chips)
    Seat 8: GusTheHun (13270 in chips)
    Seat 9: Bob7777777 (3445 in chips)
    sedi117: posts small blind 75
    macndosch: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GusTheHun [Ac Ks]
    eclair13: folds
    bt191985: folds
    zazie42: folds
    Duchy Duke7: folds
    GusTheHun: raises 300 to 450
    Bob7777777: folds
    skorpija75: folds
    sedi117: folds
    macndosch: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [Tc Kd 5c]
    bt191985 said, "nice play sir"
    macndosch: bets 750
    GusTheHun: raises 1350 to 2100
    macndosch: raises 14855 to 16955 and is all-in
    GusTheHun: ???
  2. elusively elusively is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 9:55am) in reply to GusTheHun

    Gay spot because we're both so deep.

    This spot is pretty much read dependent, without reads I'm folding and I'm not happy about it at all.

    What is your image?
    How about the villians image? Is he defending his BB frequently?

    Unless the villian is retarded (which is definitely possible), you're basically flipping against the hands that you're currently beating (Kxcc, QJcc), unless he freaked out w/ KQ/KJo.

    He's playing his hand fast on a draw heavy board. If he's competent/thinking player, you're never in good shape here. If he check/shoved, I think his range is more weighted towards drawing hands. Here, he leads, gets raised and shoves, that's strong. He can still do that with the same hands he check/shoves with, but I'd argue that it narrows his range at least a little.
  3. cassettecounty cassettecounty is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 10:12am) in reply to elusively

    I agree with everything elusive said, except I'm more likely to get it in with no reads.
    I think your image is super important here, almost moreso than villain's. If you've only been showing down strong, you have to give him more credit for having something here.

    If his image of you is just as vague as your image of him, I think you have a good chance of being ahead here.
  4. GusTheHun GusTheHun is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 12:26pm) in reply to GusTheHun

    ...well, about my image: when the blind was 50, I had 530 chips.. I had couple of shove and double up, and later I called a preflop raise from utg on the Button with 67s and I made a straight, so double up again... so basically I had a good run, with couple of showdowns....
    MAcndosh : I seen two times double up with pp hit set, both times limp from early pos. lots of minibets after flop and no showdowns..

    I couldnt decide he reraising with draw, or set...
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  5. cassettecounty cassettecounty is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 12:39pm) in reply to GusTheHun

    You've got a solid stack, so you could fold and wait for situations where you're more confident you're ahead.

    I just have a bad habit of thinking like: AA is unlikely (as played), a flopped set or flopped two pair is unlikely mathematically.

    If I think I'm ahead at the moment of action and I'm heads up, I'm willing to get it in. If he's making move with a draw and catches, ok - whatever.
  6. Rev.K Rev.K is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 1:05pm) in reply to cassettecounty

    *threadjack*

    Hey Cassette, did you get the PM I sent you?
  7. cassettecounty cassettecounty is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 2:53pm) in reply to Rev.K

     
    Originally Posted by Rev.K View Post

    *threadjack*

    Hey Cassette, did you get the PM I sent you?

    I see it now. I'm bad at checking PMs.
  8. DirtyRice DirtyRice is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 3:38pm) in reply to cassettecounty

    I'd lay it down in this spot. I'm not usually willing to risk my tourney life on TPTK unless I have a good read on the villain. Live to see another day i say.
  9. GusTheHun GusTheHun is offline

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    Apr 1st, 2009 (4/1/2009 3:52am) in reply to GusTheHun

    thanks guys, I will do fold next time..

    GusTheHun: calls 10720 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (4135) returned to macndosch
    *** TURN *** [Tc Kd 5c] [6h]
    *** RIVER *** [Tc Kd 5c 6h] [5s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    macndosch: shows [5d Td] (a full house, Fives full of Tens)
    GusTheHun: shows [Ac Ks] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
    macndosch collected 26615 from pot
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