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AK top 2 pair early in ftp 750k..wwyd?

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  1. brysch22 brysch22 is offline

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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 10:36pm)

    Ok this is still very early, so no real reads on the villian. I figure the villians 3 betting range this early is pretty tight, which makes this hand very hard to play. what do you think is the best play?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #27131792347: $750,000 Guarantee (205509217), Table 321 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:30:26 ET - 2011/01/09
    Seat 1: Kannwas (4,775)
    Seat 2: nguyen6789 (3,355)
    Seat 3: itsanaddiction (4,750)
    Seat 4: alexander_rus (3,065)
    Seat 5: djlizard66 (5,210)
    Seat 6: elainegaga (5,690)
    Seat 7: chipmystak22 (4,150)
    Seat 8: guitdist (7,570)
    Seat 9: aik13 (6,495)
    aik13 posts the small blind of 20
    Kannwas posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to chipmystak22 [Ah Kc]
    nguyen6789 folds
    itsanaddiction has 15 seconds left to act
    itsanaddiction folds
    alexander_rus folds
    djlizard66 folds
    elainegaga folds
    chipmystak22 raises to 125
    guitdist folds
    aik13 folds
    Kannwas raises to 360
    chipmystak22 has 15 seconds left to act
    chipmystak22 calls 235
    *** FLOP *** [As 3d Kd]
    Kannwas has 15 seconds left to act
    Kannwas has timed out
    Kannwas checks
    chipmystak22 bets 275
    Kannwas raises to 720
    chipmystak22 has 15 seconds left to act
    chipmystak22 ...
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  2. grandmamoneybags grandmamoneybags is online now

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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 11:09pm) in reply to brysch22

    well pretty sure you can rule out a set a of threes being that he 3b p/f. My first read is like aqdd or as your apparently afraid of trip aces or kings. With an A and a K in your hand it''s less likely. I'd get it in... way above my abi fwiw.
    Edited By: grandmamoneybags Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:11 PM
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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 11:16pm) in reply to grandmamoneybags

    I don't think u can get away from top two
    don't think he's 3betting with 33... but he's in the BB, i seen a lot of people 3bet early with weird hands....I would put him either AQdd,or two pairs.
    people usually leads out with AA or KK on that kind of flop, he might think ur c bet is weak.

    I would raise/call in that spot. but i'm bad....there goes my .02
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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 11:19pm) in reply to brysch22

    Wow. Pretty sick. OPR?
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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 11:21pm) in reply to HanoverHero

    3 bet to 1450, call a shove
    Edited By: SlayNL Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:21 PM
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    Jan 9th, 2011 (1/9/2011 11:35pm) in reply to SlayNL

    Could be wrong, but isn't 2 diamonds (qj,j10,98, etc.) in his range here? Also, in a tournament like this where everyone is capable and deep stacked at this stage, he could just be c/ring for information, correct?
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 12:02am) in reply to Ntaust10

    chipmystak22 calls 445
    *** TURN *** [As 3d Kd] [Qh]
    Kannwas bets 1,100
    chipmystak22 has 15 seconds left to act
    chipmystak22 has requested TIME
    chipmystak22
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  8. SlayNL SlayNL is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 12:08am) in reply to brysch22

    This is why I 3bet this flop... I seriously doubt he's check raising QQ on that flop, same goes with JT so I just go ahead and jam here
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 12:09am) in reply to Ntaust10

     
    Originally Posted by Ntaust10 View Post

    Could be wrong, but isn't 2 diamonds (qj,j10,98, etc.) in his range here? Also, in a tournament like this where everyone is capable and deep stacked at this stage, he could just be c/ring for information, correct?


    i mean they cud be in his range but we gotta keep in mind he 3 bet pf, and doubt he check raises for info in a spot like this
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 12:53am) in reply to brysch22

     
    Originally Posted by brysch22 View Post

    chipmystak22 calls 445
    *** TURN *** [As 3d Kd] [Qh]
    Kannwas bets 1,100
    chipmystak22 has 15 seconds left to act
    chipmystak22 has requested TIME
    chipmystak22

    don't think that Qh changes anything, as J10 should be out of his range. I'm more convince the villian has AQdd.
    since u called the flop, no reason to fold so jamming i guess..
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 1:06am) in reply to SSG

     
    Originally Posted by SSG View Post

    don't think that Qh changes anything, as J10 should be out of his range. I'm more convince the villian has AQdd.
    since u called the flop, no reason to fold so jamming i guess..

    yeah aq dd imo

    although his range is obv wider than one hand alon eit looks like he's got a big piece of it.
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 1:56am) in reply to grandmamoneybags

    looks like AA/KK/AQdd to be honest, but I cant say im good enough to fold here so i would still be 3bet/getting it in even though his line looks to me like he knows hes holding the nuts, is this bad? should you be able to find a fold here, or is calling down better to allow him to continue with worse?it really looks like hes got AA/KK to me here...... im still not folding
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:08am) in reply to Burnsey

    everything looks fine apart from jam the turn. It does look like AdQd.
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:12am) in reply to ukaliks

    re-raise then call a shove
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:22am) in reply to mini bomberr

    Isn't it possible that they both hold AK???
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:25am) in reply to otang4prez

    I play bad and called turn...and then river he jams..i couldnt fold..he had 88 ..guess i play so bad and weak that i somehow got full value? thanks for input tho..probly shoulda jammed turn
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:28am) in reply to brysch22

    never played in the 750k, but sure seems like alota fish
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    Jan 10th, 2011 (1/10/2011 2:49am) in reply to brysch22

     
    Originally Posted by brysch22 View Post

    I play bad and called turn...and then river he jams..i couldnt fold..he had 88 ..guess i play so bad and weak that i somehow got full value? thanks for input tho..probly shoulda jammed turn

    lol, actually got more value by playing it wrong
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