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AKhh facing monster iso reshove

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  1. TigerRam TigerRam is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 5:50pm)

    How many of you guys call in this spot? the monster rejam is from a player that is solid. Obv was ready to get it in vs the first shover, but do I really call off my whole stack here in this spot? This is in the 26 on tilt at 9am and im like 15 of 70.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #26880061162: $16,000 KO Guarantee (208570409), Table 64 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:45:15 ET - 2011/01/01
    Seat 1: BlackEngel1 (14,850)
    Seat 2: freibier68 (40,954)
    Seat 3: NiceThrow69 (21,428)
    Seat 4: phonecord (124,670)
    Seat 5: jokada (73,939)
    Seat 7: Iris Heinz (130,699)
    Seat 9: TigerRam723 (84,665)
    BlackEngel1 antes 250
    freibier68 antes 250
    NiceThrow69 antes 250
    phonecord antes 250
    jokada antes 250
    Iris Heinz antes 250
    TigerRam723 antes 250
    BlackEngel1 posts the small blind of 1,000
    freibier68 posts the big blind of 2,000
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to TigerRam723 [Ah Kh]
    mr Statix sits down
    NiceThrow69 has 15 seconds left to act
    NiceThrow69 raises to 21,178, and is all in
    phonecord folds
    jokada folds
    Iris Heinz raises to 130,449, and is all in
    TigerRam723 has 15 seconds left to act
    TigerRam723 has requested TIME
     
  2. My Brim Low My Brim Low is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 5:55pm) in reply to TigerRam

    im never folding here. you saying hes solid makes me want to call even more
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  3. Scarypooper Scarypooper is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 5:55pm) in reply to My Brim Low

    Lots of people iso AQ/AJs type hands here so I get it in.
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  4. mapunk mapunk is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:14pm) in reply to Scarypooper

     
    Originally Posted by Scarypooper View Post

    Lots of people iso AQ/AJs type hands here so I get it in.

    Exactly this. I'm never folding
     
  5. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:14pm) in reply to Scarypooper

    if im reading right besides u the only effective stacks behind have 20bbs at most , that and lot of crazy players in these early morning 26s on ftp, i might click call
     
  6. phaplap phaplap is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:32pm) in reply to mattdb9er

    Snap call and take a drink when cards are opening.
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  7. EyeKnows EyeKnows is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:49pm) in reply to phaplap

    calling.
  8. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:50pm) in reply to EyeKnows

    if he's competent im snap calling
     
  9. TigerRam TigerRam is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 6:56pm) in reply to bonflizubi

    Thanks for the responses gentlemen!
     
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  10. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 7:33pm) in reply to phaplap

    Call every day all day there! Why should he just push AA/KK there? Wouldn't just calling with those hands be better to induce a 4bet with the hand you have and weaker? He wants to isolate the OR there, if he has AA/KK there then it's a strange play imo.
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  11. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 8:13pm) in reply to RedIceRap

    What if hes shoving AA to make it look like he has 88-JJ or AJ,AQ?
  12. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 8:25pm) in reply to rayfox111

    His iso isn't that huge. Effective stacks are only 40 bbs, I'm never folding
     
  13. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 8:58pm) in reply to rayfox111

     
    Originally Posted by rayfox111 View Post

    What if hes shoving AA to make it look like he has 88-JJ or AJ,AQ?

    For hero it's much easier to repush a call because of the fold equity than to just call an all in from the only guy who can hurt him. If villain saw hero overvalueing marginal hands this wouldn't be too bad but still, villain gets an all in with much more hands if he just calls. 99 for example is an insta flod if big stack pushes, but if he just calls you could interpret that as weakness or dead money in the pot, what makes you just push it in this particular situation. We don't know much about table dynamics, wheter it's the bubble or not etc so those are just my general thoughts.
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  14. HanoverHero HanoverHero is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 9:44pm) in reply to RedIceRap

    I must be spewwy.
  15. pokerproplaya08 pokerproplaya08 is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 9:54pm) in reply to HanoverHero

    Who folds ak? Esp suited?
  16. YoOiTsCeWL YoOiTsCeWL is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 10:01pm) in reply to pokerproplaya08

     
    Originally Posted by pokerproplaya08 View Post

    Who folds ak? Esp suited?


    lol @ this ... tbh im going to say fold. im thinking about long term here and saying you cant win the tourney now, but with the info you get by seeing his hand you gain +EV in the future playing against him...just my 2 cents
  17. RedIceRap RedIceRap is offline Moderator

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 10:05pm) in reply to YoOiTsCeWL

     
    Originally Posted by YoOiTsCeWL View Post

    lol @ this ... tbh im going to say fold. im thinking about long term here and saying you cant win the tourney now, but with the info you get by seeing his hand you gain +EV in the future playing against him...just my 2 cents

    I really really hope u kidding
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  18. pokerscrub1 pokerscrub1 is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 10:06pm) in reply to RedIceRap

    Im calling...considering AK, AQ, AJ make up a decent portion of his range, and AA & KK are a very tiny portion, i think this is an easy call....just gotta find and A or K when he tables JJ
     
  19. YoOiTsCeWL YoOiTsCeWL is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 10:12pm) in reply to RedIceRap

     
    Originally Posted by RedIceRap View Post

    I really really hope u kidding

    no not kiddin, take my info for what its worth...just about 2 cents ;P
  20. P0KERPR033 P0KERPR033 is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 11:29pm) in reply to YoOiTsCeWL

    Def stick it in here Ram and feel good about it. I would call with 99 and would fold 88 and aq sooted
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  21. TigerRam TigerRam is offline

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    Jan 1st, 2011 (1/1/2011 11:32pm) in reply to P0KERPR033

    Thanks for the replys guys I guess this is a part of my game that I need to overcome. Need to stop being scared of sticking it in in big spots like this in fear of busting out. I guess part of the reason why I fold this spot sometimes is I feel like I am picking up chips easily playing small pots vs the weaker opponents so sometimes I don't see the need to go crazy in a spot like this. But I guess I need to start doing that to get that monster stack! Thanks again guys
     
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  22. spurless10 spurless10 is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 5:46am) in reply to TigerRam

    I would probalby fold this hand
  23. gbmantis gbmantis is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 6:16am) in reply to spurless10

    I'd fold 99 and probably TT also but I can't get myself to fold AKhh here.
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  24. P0KERDUUDE P0KERDUUDE is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 6:29am) in reply to gbmantis

    It's not really a MONSTER iso, 42bb effective, and it's after a 10bb stack shoved. I'm callin here
     
  25. donkthorne04 donkthorne04 is offline Disabled account

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 6:38am) in reply to P0KERDUUDE

    pokerstove.com

    p.s. don't fold
  26. m_hawk_1 m_hawk_1 is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 6:57am) in reply to donkthorne04

    Pretty happy with TT+/AK here.
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  27. Jymaster0011 Jymaster0011 is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 4:08pm) in reply to m_hawk_1

    I prob call AQ, and like 1010
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  28. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    Jan 2nd, 2011 (1/2/2011 5:47pm) in reply to Jymaster0011

     
    Originally Posted by Jymaster0011 View Post

    I prob call AQ, and like 1010

    Nice to be able to quote the guy with the number 1 on the ranked badge.

    But yeah- this.
     
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