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Ako, OOP/SB, 3-bet pot Pre, Fast Satellite, 29 bb- Shove or not ?

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  1. HUSTLEHERO HUSTLEHERO is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2012 (7/25/2012 10:53pm)

    Hey
    Wondering if some one could weigh in?

    So this was a 20 person satellite, where the top 2 get the seat/qualify, and 3rd was 2.5x buyin.
    V BU in this case was 22/18

    I was thinking that in a structure this fast, starting with a medium stacks ( started off with 30 bb), That I should shove Ako as I have FE on my side, and to flat OOP would be somewhat disastrous with a v who c-bets 80% + I prob would be against 2vs as MP would be getting odds to call. I'm wondering if optimal in this situation is to just fold, as its pretty much if I don't get a fold I'm 90% of the time gambling and 10% against AQ.

    Wondered if it is optimal to shove and take the gamble in this structure, or should I be looking for a better spot? Explanations are always super appreciated.

    pokerstars Hand #83843342803: Tournament #589872232, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2012/07/25 16:53:55 ET
    Table '589872232 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: pokerfacelil (2738 in chips)
    Seat 2: gygygygy (1873 in chips)
    Seat 3: Scarey Pelt (1905 in chips)
    Seat 4: HUSTLheR0 (1450 in chips)
    Seat 5: peligrosa_5 (1414 in chips)
    Seat 6: rasinruby (1730 in chips)
    Seat 8: jjy0710 (765 in chips)
    Seat 9: schnugg30 (1500 in chips)
    HUSTLheR0: posts small blind 25
    peligrosa_5: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HUSTLheR0 [As Kh]
    rasinruby: folds
    jjy0710: folds
    schnugg30: raises 100 to 150
    pokerfacelil: folds
    gygygygy: folds
    Scarey Pelt: raises 300 to 450
    HUSTLheR0: ??
  2. HUSTLEHERO HUSTLEHERO is offline

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    Jul 25th, 2012 (7/25/2012 11:43pm) in reply to HUSTLEHERO

    ps, sorry thought about this after the fact, I reckon actually pretty much if I don't get a fold I reckon I'm 80% of the time gambling against a pair, 10% against AQ, 7% dominated by AA,KK, and 3% a wash against AK.
    Edited By: HUSTLEHERO Jul 25th, 2012 at 11:46 PM
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  3. EricWRX EricWRX is offline

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    Jul 26th, 2012 (7/26/2012 2:01am) in reply to HUSTLEHERO

    i'd ship this every time in a 10$ satty with 30bb
     
  4. blueboy44 blueboy44 is offline

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    Jul 27th, 2012 (7/27/2012 11:52pm) in reply to HUSTLEHERO

    b4 u do anything u have 29 bb and ur at a full table. the stacks are pretty close except for 1 bs and both raisers have u covered. i think the optimal play is to fold. shoving against 2 raisers seems to me kind of weak because one of the 2 will have a hand. so that means ur racing at best. ur still sittin good w/ 29bb. like i said i fold there, but i shove all day if this was a hu situation.
  5. EricWRX EricWRX is offline

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    Jul 28th, 2012 (7/28/2012 12:05am) in reply to blueboy44

    oops i thought you were the opener...yeah this is a pretty standard fold
     
  6. nosucout325 nosucout325 is offline

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    Jul 29th, 2012 (7/29/2012 2:24am) in reply to EricWRX

    with 650 in the pot pre, you increase ur stack by 44% if u shove and get a fold, with 29bb i would find it hard to fold here, given the fast structure and the shallow stacks, i wouldnt mind playin for stacks rite here...glgl
  7. double_kyan double_kyan is offline

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    Jul 29th, 2012 (7/29/2012 7:40am) in reply to nosucout325

    all i had to do was read ak and fast satty=shove that mudder fugger
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