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  1. chillinscott chillinscott is offline

    Baton Rouge, LA
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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 6:39pm)

    I was wondering do you guys ever go through a run where it seems no matter what you do you can't win? Im wondering sometimes if its just the low level buy in's that i play or is it something im doing wrong.. I have logged my last 20 MTT that i have played and in every one of them 16/20 times i was ahead in the hand that all my chips were in the middle.. of those 16 times 8 were coinflips out of the 8 coinflips 6 were when i was short stacked... Out of the other 8 times .. 4 times people have AQ vs my AK and hit a Q or AJ...( i never push with AQ or AJ unless i have to) 4 other times i was hit with a 2 outter like smaller pockets against my higher pockets.

    After losing like this i come and read on here how like in 1 week some of these guys just finish at like 3 to 4 or more final tables and i can't understand it.... 85% of the time when all my chips are in i have the best hand and just don't seem to ever hold up... My question to your guys is there more to it than just always having the best hand when all ur chips are in .. or is their strategy u choose when to put ur chips in such as folding Q's pre flop ..Cuz it always seems to me when im in a hand with a chip leader and he has AK he connects or if he has QQ and i have AK he holds up.. should i try avoiding getting in pots with these guys or something even though i have a big hand and most of the time the best hand?

    Any help is greatly appreciate.d
  2. bostonkitty bostonkitty is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 6:43pm) in reply to chillinscott

    yur only talkin 20 turnys.......thats nothing at all.......the guys that play alot of mtts play 20-40 per day........u need a much larger sample.......with 25 turnys yur just saying you were a little unlucky for 1 day
  3. BigGunX BigGunX is offline Mr OT Party

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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 6:44pm) in reply to chillinscott

    Hey Chillin, all of us go through bad streaks. There are a bunch of great posts on here about tourney play. Adam (P5 admin guy) has written some very good posts about it.

    There's so much more than just getting your chips in with the favored hand. Accruing chips so that you can absorb the beats is what's important in a tournament. If you always have less chips than the other guy, the bad beat you take is going to be the one that eliminates you. If you can absorb a beat and get your chips in against an inferior stack, your tourney life doesn't end.

    Search through the archives for some great discussion on this. The bottom line is that there's so much more to it than making a good preflop laydown or simply getting your chips in with the better hand preflop or on the flop.

    Pretty vague, but I hope that helps.
     
  4. lilprog79 lilprog79 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 6:53pm) in reply to chillinscott

    I have a theory which i plan on testing and would love to hear some experienced tournament players share their experiences. I have always tried to follow the rule of playing conservative early and then opening up more as the blinds get bigger especially around the bubble. It usually ends up with 2 1/2 hrs of wasted time into a bad beat which was inevitable. IF you have to go all in 6 or more times in a tourney then the odds are likely you will lose one of them.

    Im wondering if its better to be really aggressive from the first hour on so that you either dont get near the bubble or if you do you have alot of chips so you c

    an withstain a bad beat...
     
  5. bmac bmac is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 7:06pm) in reply to lilprog79

    There are people that practice this 'double up or go home' method in the first hour & they make it work. Some people would rather wait it out cause you never know when the deck is gonna hit you in the face & make you blow up. If a tourney is 3-4 hours only, that's only gonna happen in the first hour 25% of the time.
  6. chillinscott chillinscott is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2005 (12/4/2005 9:06pm) in reply to BigGunX

    Where can i find Adam's post about tournament play?
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