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Am I crazy for folding here?

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  1. nsinger nsinger is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:21pm)

    Assuming the other two players are not the worst players in history?

    Hand #53258847-48 at 220pmOmahaHR-003 (Pot Limit tournament Omaha)
    Started at 09/May/08 15:40:32

    nsinger is at seat 0 with 12075.
    17yrsofHELL is at seat 1 with 5625.
    luka05 is at seat 2 with 14850.
    Nora Mc Lucky is at seat 3 with 8305.
    Herbhaze420 is at seat 4 with 9000.
    mss_player is at seat 5 with 9220.
    friesian52 is at seat 6 with 4180.
    t2587 is at seat 7 with 14650.
    lilworm is at seat 8 with 7865.
    Felici is at seat 9 with 11730.
    The button is at seat 2.

    Nora Mc Lucky posts the small blind of 50.
    Herbhaze420 posts the big blind of 100.
    nsinger: Ks Kd Tc 9h
    17yrsofHELL: -- -- -- --
    luka05: -- -- -- --
    Nora Mc Lucky: -- -- -- --
    Herbhaze420: -- -- -- --
    mss_player: -- -- -- --
    friesian52: -- -- -- --
    t2587: -- -- -- --
    lilworm: -- -- -- --
    Felici: -- -- -- --
    Pre-flop:

    mss_player folds. friesian52 calls. t2587 folds.
    lilworm calls. Felici folds. nsinger calls.
    17yrsofHELL calls. luka05 calls. Nora Mc Lucky
    calls. Herbhaze420 checks.
    Flop (board: 6h 8c 7s):

    Nora Mc Lucky bets 700. Herbhaze420 folds.
    friesian52 raises to 2800. lilworm folds. nsinger
    folds.
      

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  2. joeykukzMSU joeykukzMSU is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:24pm) in reply to nsinger

    im confused. you flop nut straight on rainbow board and fold? im not a omaha expert but this makes me head hurt.
  3. BluffCommited BluffCommited is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:25pm) in reply to nsinger

    I'm no tourney expert let alone a plo tourney expert but nothing can beat you here. And the only thing you might think is he has a set but he still has to improve. No idea y you folded.
  4. tru4yooh tru4yooh is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:27pm) in reply to BluffCommited

    bad fold imo
  5. Gregtzky Gregtzky is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:28pm) in reply to nsinger

    This can't be level. GTFO this site.
  6. nsinger nsinger is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:28pm) in reply to BluffCommited

    In PLO you are almost always going to be getting freerolled on this flop. A hand like 910Jx or 67910 has us totally crushed as we have no redraws at all. And when there's two other players in the vast vast majority of the time you're crushed if they ahve any idea what they're doing. If one of them has 910Jx and the other has two pair or a set you're in very bad shape.

    If it's a raised pot and there's a bunch of money in there or you have a very short stack I'd probably get it in but with a deeper stack I'm never ever ever shoving here.

    Of course, all that apparently goes out the window in this particular spot, lol.
      
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  7. nsinger nsinger is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:38pm) in reply to Gregtzky

    Nah I'm not trying to level anyone; I think it's a perfectly legitimate question
      
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  8. jordankickz jordankickz is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:40pm) in reply to nsinger

    WAT
    757 1
  9. GutShotBen GutShotBen is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:55pm) in reply to jordankickz

     
  10. Gregtzky Gregtzky is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:55pm) in reply to nsinger

    How can you fold here? I ran some numbers against two opponents and yes in the OFFF chance someone has 9 10 J and the other person has a set you're tying a majority of the time and losing 10 percent of the time. Plus remember you could back door a full house to win outright. Just don't see how you can fold here sorry.
  11. Cortz Cortz is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 4:56pm) in reply to nsinger

    wtf is this some sort of joke
  12. felloff felloff is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:00pm) in reply to Cortz

    sick man. You have to at least peel off a turn card and if the board does not pair or give a higher straight... get her in on the turn.
  13. ClayRaiken ClayRaiken is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:05pm) in reply to felloff

    i like the fold here.. the reraise on the flop is HAS to be 9T as well and why would you jam here when you have no redraws giving villain a shot at your 120xbb stack on a freeroll.. where is the upside on jamming here?
     
  14. GutShotBen GutShotBen is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:06pm) in reply to jordankickz

    possible to fold nuts in omaha if you are deep enought + if you tink somebody freerool big time on your azzz imo
     
  15. lvlatt1 lvlatt1 is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:08pm) in reply to ClayRaiken

    It really doesn't have to be 9T. People are stupid enough to do it with a set. But let's say they have 9T, sure, don't RR, but don't fold either
  16. Maridu Maridu is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:11pm) in reply to nsinger

    I think it's a really good fold. Where and what are you playing? Can I join? (lol, cmon...)
     
  17. WillBG WillBG is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 5:29pm) in reply to nsinger

    Sir......you made a stupid lay down. You folded the flopped nuts and you folded to what may happen or could happen not what HAS happened.

    I just want you to know that their is no arguement to this. DUMBASS fold
  18. MikeBucks MikeBucks is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 6:08pm) in reply to nsinger

    I can never find a fold here. You can't flop better than the nuts. If you get drawn out on, fine, that's poker.
     
  19. staknchips83 staknchips83 is offline

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    May 9th, 2008 (5/9/2008 6:17pm) in reply to MikeBucks

    LOL..... thats all i have to say.
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  20. SonOfTone SonOfTone is offline

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    May 10th, 2008 (5/10/2008 1:12pm) in reply to nsinger

    clearly a piss take.. u hav no heart
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