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Am i just supposed to fold this flop? Or should i just fold pre?

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  1. ProfitCenter ProfitCenter is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 2:49pm)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #19280232296: $42,000 Guarantee (146665465), Table 172 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:45:41 ET - 2010/03/15

    Seat 1: kamen4o99 (2,240)

    Seat 2: LondonN14 (7,361)

    Seat 3: rivermonkee666 (3,252)

    Seat 4: superfly41 (4,153)

    Seat 5: eneshanibal (2,989)

    Seat 6: DR Golf40 (3,850)

    Seat 7: 3rdtry (3,318)

    Seat 8: lyoder (4,830)

    Seat 9: ProfitCenter (7,980)

    eneshanibal posts the small blind of 30

    DR Golf40 posts the big blind of 60

    The button is in seat #4

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to ProfitCenter [Jc Js]

    3rdtry calls 60

    lyoder folds

    ProfitCenter raises to 180

    kamen4o99 folds

    LondonN14 folds

    rivermonkee666 raises to 540

    superfly41 folds

    eneshanibal folds

    DR Golf40 folds

    3rdtry folds

    ProfitCenter calls 360

    *** FLOP *** [Td 9s Qh]

    ProfitCenter checks

    rivermonkee666 has 15 seconds left to act

    rivermonkee666 bets 960

    ProfitCenter raises to 7,440, and is all in

    rivermonkee666 calls 1,752, and is all in

    ProfitCenter shows [Jc Js]

    rivermonkee666 shows [Ks Kd]

    Uncalled bet of 4,728 returned to ProfitCenter

    *** TURN *** [Td 9s Qh] [6s]

    *** RIVER *** [Td 9s Qh 6s] [Ac]

    ProfitCenter shows a pair of Jacks

    rivermonkee666 shows a pair of Kings

    rivermonkee666 wins the pot (6,654) with a pair of Kings

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 6,654 | Rake 0

    Board: [Td 9s Qh 6s Ac]

    Seat 1: kamen4o99 didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 2: LondonN14 didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 3: rivermonkee666 showed [Ks Kd] and won (6,654) with a pair of Kings

    Seat 4: superfly41 (button) didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 5: eneshanibal (small blind) folded before the Flop

    Seat 6: DR Golf40 (big blind) folded before the Flop

    Seat 7: 3rdtry folded before the Flop

    Seat 8: lyoder didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 9: ProfitCenter showed [Jc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
  2. ShyGuy03533 ShyGuy03533 is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 3:23pm) in reply to ProfitCenter

    i dont like how u played that at all

    after his 3bet pf, Im calling JJ purely to crack his QQ+ range with a set. I would bet flop and if he raises me, I consider folding alot and move on
  3. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 3:29pm) in reply to ShyGuy03533

     
    Originally Posted by ShyGuy03533 View Post

    i dont like how u played that at all

    after his 3bet pf, Im calling JJ purely to crack his QQ+ range with a set. I would bet flop and if he raises me, I consider folding alot and move on

    this is not a better way to play it.

    its prob a fold pre against a capable opponent.
     
  4. ShyGuy03533 ShyGuy03533 is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 3:33pm) in reply to AmSlim22

    with 70bbs?

    check the stack sizes.

    Sure folding isn't a bad play but calling when the villian basically polarizes his range is ok too.
  5. ShyGuy03533 ShyGuy03533 is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 3:35pm) in reply to ShyGuy03533

    actually

    with the villians stack size, I think a fold is better

    he's putting in about 18% of his stack, so he def has a hand.

    If he had the same stack as hero, implied odds would garner me to call just for set and maybe a safe flop if villian has AK
  6. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 3:54pm) in reply to ShyGuy03533

    yea i was basing it off villian's stack size.

    and bet folding the flop would be pretty bad against his stack.
     
  7. yellowhat yellowhat is offline

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    Mar 15th, 2010 (3/15/2010 4:29pm) in reply to ProfitCenter

    Fold pre, the stack sizes just suck, as played I get it in.
     
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