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Am i losing my mind? i was ridiculed for this call

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  1. greenpepper greenpepper is offline

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    Sep 18th, 2007 (9/18/2007 2:07pm)

    hi guys, i was just warming up at the 5K guaranteed at stars, busted on what i see as a bad beat, but funny thing i was criticized by the play and ridiculed and i stand amazed, im i crazy? i mean, i was so obvioulsy ahead, and i was told i was for sure behind and that i was too stubborn to play...here is the hand history , would appreciate comments...

    pokerstars Game #12129242685: Tournament #61173065, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/18 - 13:30:03 (ET)
    Table '61173065 60' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: davistio (4485 in chips)
    Seat 2: JMuny420 (3805 in chips)
    Seat 3: chuchita2007 (6445 in chips)
    Seat 4: JesperMikkel (6785 in chips)
    Seat 5: EukaNo1 (7260 in chips)
    Seat 6: Brummi1988 (8165 in chips)
    Seat 7: ostereo (1515 in chips)
    Seat 8: HDbets (2760 in chips)
    Seat 9: napi xxl (3385 in chips)
    chuchita2007: posts small blind 15
    JesperMikkel: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HDbets [Ks Kd]
    EukaNo1: folds
    Brummi1988: folds
    ostereo: calls 30
    HDbets: raises 60 to 90
    napi xxl: folds
    davistio: folds
    JMuny420: folds
    chuchita2007: folds
    JesperMikkel: calls 60
    ostereo: calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [7s 8c 3s]
    JesperMikkel: bets 180
    ostereo: calls 180
    HDbets: raises 300 to 480
    JesperMikkel: raises 6215 to 6695 and is all-in
    ostereo: folds
    HDbets: calls 2190 and is all-in
    HDbets said, "have a set i guess"
    *** TURN *** [7s 8c 3s] [Jh]
    *** RIVER *** [7s 8c 3s Jh] [9c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    JesperMikkel: shows [7c Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
    HDbets: shows [Ks Kd] (a pair of Kings)
    JesperMikkel collected 5805 from pot
    davistio said, "t"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5805 | Rake 0
    Board [7s 8c 3s Jh 9c]
    Seat 1: davistio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: JMuny420 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: chuchita2007 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: JesperMikkel (big blind) showed [7c Jc] and won (5805) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
    Seat 5: EukaNo1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Brummi1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: ostereo folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: HDbets showed [Ks Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
    Seat 9: napi xxl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. sotti sotti is offline

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    Sep 18th, 2007 (9/18/2007 2:17pm) in reply to greenpepper

    Bad beat.

    Move on.

    clearly the winner here was trying to say I have a set/two pair. So if that's what he has you gotta lay it down. You can see Phil Ivey do this on season 3 of highstakes poker when Brad Booth puts him all in on a low flop and Ivey lays down the best hand, KK.

    So the villian is saying I only bluff this spot like 20% of the time the other 80% I have it so you should've folded. But in low level tournaments you are playing the agragate of how these players play and for the most part they will do this with a straight draw or top pair, or an overpair.

    KK has to call here everytime at these limits.
  3. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2007 (9/19/2007 9:19am) in reply to greenpepper

    I always love the explanation.

    They don't have it, but they demand the respect that they might have it. So, you called them, and your way ahead. Why should you be ridiculed, obviously, you made the right call here.

    At $5, I'm not folding here. Just can't do that. Too many players make that bluff. They just got lucky that time on you.
  4. finewhine finewhine is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2007 (9/19/2007 10:21am) in reply to lordxixor101

    Agree, you can't fold. Just ul.

    I don't know how many times I've said this, but I will repeat: TURN OFF CHAT
  5. Bulldogmafia Bulldogmafia is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2007 (9/19/2007 11:36am) in reply to greenpepper

    As played, I don't mind the call at all. I would raise it more pre-flop in early stages though.
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