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Am I supposed to call here ?

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  1. bdubz9180 bdubz9180 is offline

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    Sep 28th, 2010 (9/28/2010 10:24pm)

    not really a math guy... can someone run these numbers for me? thanks

    Full Tilt Poker Game #24276763812: $42,000 Guarantee (187620911), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:46:30 ET - 2010/09/28
    Seat 1: AngelA-DA (5,899)
    Seat 2: bdubz9180 (19,639)
    Seat 3: Sir Streit (5,720)
    Seat 4: Sick_Ko (8,765)
    Seat 5: s_l_halper (10,375)
    Seat 6: Danizapi (4,348)
    Seat 7: brendon777 (5,645)
    Seat 8: ISuckOut27 (6,917)
    Seat 9: steve-o1501 (3,933)
    Sir Streit posts the small blind of 100
    Sick_Ko posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bdubz9180 [9d 9s]
    s_l_halper folds
    Danizapi folds
    brendon777 calls 200
    ISuckOut27 raises to 600
    steve-o1501 folds
    AngelA-DA folds
    bdubz9180 has 15 seconds left to act
    bdubz9180 calls 600
    Sir Streit has 15 seconds left to act
    Sir Streit raises to 5,720, and is all in
    Sick_Ko folds
    brendon777 folds
    ISuckOut27 raises to 6,917, and is all in
    bdubz9180 has 15 seconds left to act
    bdubz9180 has requested TIME

    I ended up against 88 and AK, 99 held for the CL.
    I didn't feel right about the call tho... just wondering if I was way out of line
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Sep 29th, 2010 (9/29/2010 4:43am) in reply to bdubz9180

    You don't tell us what your profile on the two all-in players were?

    When the betting gets back to you; you look and see they are both on re-shove stacks. They could be moving in light if they are active players. If they are fairly tight players, calling is questionable: you could be against over cards and an over pair.

    When they have both pushed in; you are getting better than 2:1.

    A reasonable range for them would be: 15% to 21% since they are relatively short stacked.

    equity win
    Hero: 36.265% { 99 }
    Sir Streit: 29.603% {21.6%; 66+, A4s+, K7s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A8o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
    ISuckOut27: 34.132% {15.1%; 77+, A7s+, A5s, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }
  3. UNHClown UNHClown is offline

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    Sep 29th, 2010 (9/29/2010 12:48pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

     

    ISuckOut27: 34.132% {15.1%; 77+, A7s+, A5s, K9s+, Q9s+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QJo }

    Doubt this range is remotely close. It's one thing for that to be his iso range on a limper, but to snap off a 30 bb shove is another matter.
  4. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Sep 29th, 2010 (9/29/2010 2:30pm) in reply to UNHClown

    I think Clown's right. The original shover can be fairly loose, but when ISuckOut calls, he's not making that call with A5 or Q9 or whatever other nonsense is in that range. In a $26 MTT, I can't imagine he's much wider than {88+, AQs+, AKo}. I normally wouldn't say Sir Streit is as wide as BlueDog says he is...but let's keep it that way for argument's sake. With ISuckOut's new range, you're about 28% to win the pot, not enough for the price you're being offered.

    You only have 3% of your stack invested. There's no reason to gamble here. Fold.
     
  5. Liquidiamnds Liquidiamnds is offline

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    Sep 29th, 2010 (9/29/2010 11:31pm) in reply to grapsfan

    I am with Grapsfan and Clown, the range that I think ISuckOut27 would call with would force me to fold 99 in that position.
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