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analyze this hand....no nitty comments please...

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  1. p0lecat p0lecat is offline

    Marietta, OK
    United States

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 7:46pm)

    Hand #53119588-101 at Sun530pm_200K-049 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
    Started at 04/May/08 19:17:38

    airshuttler1 is at seat 0 with 2665.
    The_Pr1me is at seat 1 with 5160.
    p0lecat is at seat 2 with 4840.
    ZONACREW_NET is at seat 3 with 4160.
    DiceDominator is at seat 4 with 2745.
    loolu is at seat 5 with 7025.
    Lionel888 is at seat 6 with 8955.
    hhway is at seat 7 with 2090.
    Citizen_James is at seat 8 with 4085.
    ElRupert is at seat 9 with 2590.
    The button is at seat 0.

    The_Pr1me posts the small blind of 75.
    p0lecat posts the big blind of 150.

    airshuttler1: -- --
    The_Pr1me: -- --
    p0lecat: Qs Jh
    ZONACREW_NET: -- --
    DiceDominator: -- --
    loolu: -- --
    Lionel888: -- --
    hhway: -- --
    Citizen_James: -- --
    ElRupert: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    ZONACREW_NET folds. DiceDominator folds. loolu
    folds. Lionel888 folds. hhway folds.
    Citizen_James folds. ElRupert raises to 450.
    airshuttler1 folds. The_Pr1me folds. p0lecat calls.

    Flop (board: Ts 9d 4s):

    p0lecat bets 350. ElRupert calls.

    Turn (board: Ts 9d 4s As):

    p0lecat bets 875. ElRupert goes all-in for 1790.
    p0lecat calls.

    Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

    p0lecat shows Qs Jh.
    ElRupert shows Ad Th.

    River (board: Ts 9d 4s As 3d):

    (no action in this round)

    Showdown:

    p0lecat has Qs Jh Ts 9d As: ace high.
    ElRupert has Ad Th Ts 9d As: two pair, aces and tens.

    Hand #53119588-101 Summary:

    No rake is taken for this hand.
    ElRupert wins 5255 with two pair, aces and tens.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 8:05pm) in reply to p0lecat

    Looks fairly standard to me.
     
  3. fishm0nger fishm0nger is offline

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 8:17pm) in reply to p0lecat

    Check-raise flop instead? I don't think it ends differently though.
  4. mathclub mathclub is offline

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 8:20pm) in reply to p0lecat

    don't call pre to play a pot out of position with QJ offsuit
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  5. Shad Shad is offline

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 8:25pm) in reply to mathclub

    Dito that!

    If ya can't fold QJ off then ya need to learn to and fast
  6. lind0 lind0 is offline

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    May 4th, 2008 (5/4/2008 9:22pm) in reply to p0lecat

    I think a check raise on the flop is much stronger than leading out. If you lead out on the flop, a lot of players won't give that bet any credit and will just ship it in on you no matter what they have. By leading there, you give your opponent an opportunity to represent a big pair, and you give him the chance to make the final bet in the hand. Basically you're putting the decision on yourself if he moves at you there (which he should have).

    I think the best line is to try to check-raise (if he doesn't bet you get a free card anyway). You come over him with a big enough bet to commit yourself to the pot, and you let him know you're committed so he has no hope of stealing the pot with another raise. He'll only be able to call/move in if he has a fairly strong hand (which is unlikely), and if he does you probably have atleast 8 outs and might have as many as 14. You have a decent chance even if you're called, you create some fold equity for yourself with the check raise, and you put the tough decision on your opponent.
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