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Analyzing my own MTT stats for better game selection....what tracking site is best?

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  1. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 6:01pm)

    I basically want to analyze my own play in MTT's so that I can game select better. I want and get a breakdown of things such as;

    1)ROI for different buy in levels
    2) ROI for different days of the week
    3) ROI for tournaments starting at different times
    4) ROI for rebuys vs. freezeouts/ deepstacks vs. turbos

    Are there any sites that really get into the nitty gritty and break all of this down? Are they free, or do I have to pay for them?
     
  2. XmoroX XmoroX is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 8:53pm) in reply to HammerU

    Officialpokerrankings.com = free , but only tracks stars, Tilt, Ongame and party

    Sharkscope.com = u have to pay , tracks everything even small europoker rooms
     
  3. HammerU HammerU is offline

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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 9:56pm) in reply to XmoroX

    Does official poker rankings.com break things down into buy ins levels ect? I saw a screen shot of some pretty nice break downs of a players stats from the poker db but I am pretty sure that you have to pay a membership fee to get that kind of access.

    Basically I want to know what my ROI's are for different stakes so I can game select better.

    thoughts??
     
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    Sep 16th, 2010 (9/16/2010 10:58pm) in reply to HammerU

    Use sharkscope its $10 for 200 searches or 5 free a day well worth it imo. You can use it to filter your results by game type or anything else you ever would like to do. I use it extensively when researching ppls results before i stake them
    Edited By: tedSTRETCH Sep 16th, 2010 at 10:58 PM
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 12:44am) in reply to tedSTRETCH

    OP-

    If you have PT3 you can do this there easily already. I don't use HEM, but it probably does also. I somehow doubt you are playing that much without either one so it'd be silly to go to a website to do it when you already have that on your desk
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 2:06am) in reply to bonflizubi

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    OP-

    If you have PT3 you can do this there easily already. I don't use HEM, but it probably does also. I somehow doubt you are playing that much without either one so it'd be silly to go to a website to do it when you already have that on your desk

    I actually don't use PT3, HEM or a hud. I had them for a while but I felt it actually made me lazy and decreased my observational skills. I only 5 table so I can see how these tools would be beneficial for mass tabling, but for a hand full of tables playing MTT's I am not sure they actually help.

    Maybe I should get one up and running again just for self evaluation purposes. Also if I did get PT3 or HEM would it only work for tournaments going forward or could I import all of my hh and tournament stats into it from the past???

     
    Originally Posted by tedSTRETCH View Post

    Use sharkscope its $10 for 200 searches or 5 free a day well worth it imo. You can use it to filter your results by game type or anything else you ever would like to do. I use it extensively when researching ppls results before i stake them

    I just tried to do an advanced search on sharkscope for one of my searches and it said I had to be a subscriber. What are the rates to become a subscriber? If I pay $10 do I get 200 "advanced" searches or just 200 standard ones?
     
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  7. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 3:27am) in reply to HammerU

     
    Originally Posted by HammerU View Post

    I actually don't use PT3, HEM or a hud. I had them for a while but I felt it actually made me lazy and decreased my observational skills. I only 5 table so I can see how these tools would be beneficial for mass tabling, but for a hand full of tables playing MTT's I am not sure they actually help.

    Maybe I should get one up and running again just for self evaluation purposes. Also if I did get PT3 or HEM would it only work for tournaments going forward or could I import all of my hh and tournament stats into it from the past???

    If you have the HH you should be able to import the old ones too. If you have an old license for them no reason it's not still good AFAIK. If you do have them you don't have to run the hud you know...
     
  8. N 82 50 24 N 82 50 24 is offline herp derp derp

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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 5:24am) in reply to HammerU

     
    Originally Posted by HammerU View Post

    Does official poker rankings.com break things down into buy ins levels ect? I saw a screen shot of some pretty nice break downs of a players stats from the poker db but I am pretty sure that you have to pay a membership fee to get that kind of access.

    Basically I want to know what my ROI's are for different stakes so I can game select better.

    thoughts??

    I might be slightly biased here but if the information isn't worth $12 (one month's access) to you then it prob isn't even worth your time to analyze it.
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 5:34am) in reply to N 82 50 24

    hes not talking about hh's, hes talkin about sharkscope, so spend the 10 bucks and u got all ur answers....
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 6:41am) in reply to N 82 50 24

     
    Originally Posted by N 82 50 24 View Post

    I might be slightly biased here but if the information isn't worth $12 (one month's access) to you then it prob isn't even worth your time to analyze it.

    I don't recall ever stating that this information is not worth $12 to me. I just want to know what my best options are. Is this $12 you are referring to for sharkscope or the pokerdb? Which one is better?
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 6:49am) in reply to HammerU

    $12 is for thepokerdb, sharkscope is more SNG based but they have been covering more MTTs as the years have gone on. I'm not sure what they're doing specifically right now. thepokerdb is a good way to analyze MTT results though.
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 11:22am) in reply to N 82 50 24

     
    Originally Posted by N 82 50 24 View Post

    $12 is for thepokerdb, sharkscope is more SNG based but they have been covering more MTTs as the years have gone on. I'm not sure what they're doing specifically right now. thepokerdb is a good way to analyze MTT results though.

    If the poker db is the best tool to self analyze my MTT game I will gladly pay the $12 for the month for this access. If anyone has any better ideas please let me know and if not I will sign up for the pokerdb.

    Side note; Does anyone subscribe to the pokerdb continuously? If so what kind of advantages would you say it gives you over the free version of official poker rankings?
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 9:51pm) in reply to HammerU

    I subscribed to sharkscope for a month to have access to my mtt history. Was happy with the spreadsheet and please with all the other information/stats that they provided. Definetly worth trying it for a month, as it did alter my game selection. I think it should work for what your looking for.
     
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    Sep 17th, 2010 (9/17/2010 10:42pm) in reply to donkiman

    www.pokerprolabs.com

    I'm surprised I don't see this sight mentioned more. Nice bar graphs and some good filter options to view yourt MTT results from many angles.

    You can filter by:
    -Game Type (NLHE, FLHE, PLO, PLO8, Mix, etc)
    -Speed (turbo, etc)
    -Buy-In
    -Structure (rebuys, etc)
    -# of entrants.

    Don't know about days of the week. Also, they seem to have a decent software offering. All I ever read about is Poker Tracker or Hold Em Manager, but their software, Tournament Shark seems interesting. Can anybody compare it to HE Mgr or P-Tracker?
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    Sep 18th, 2010 (9/18/2010 12:54am) in reply to HammerU

     
    Originally Posted by HammerU View Post

    If the poker db is the best tool to self analyze my MTT game I will gladly pay the $12 for the month for this access. If anyone has any better ideas please let me know and if not I will sign up for the pokerdb.

    Side note; Does anyone subscribe to the pokerdb continuously? If so what kind of advantages would you say it gives you over the free version of official poker rankings?

    Bodog and UB data on pokerdb, but not OPR.

    Also, pokerdb lets you paste in a HH and then returns a snaphsot of stats for everyone at the table... great in game feature for MTT

    pokerdb also lets you filter out MTT from sng's which is not easy or as easy on OPR.

    OP- if you are going to pay 12 a month for DB access to parse your own stats... just get PT/HEM and you'll save money in the long run. pokercb is good for analyzing opponents during games though just for the HH pasting function alone.
     
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