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Angle Shoot on Kenny Tran?

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  1. trixter23 trixter23 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 8:07pm)

    I didn't see this posted yet and am wondering what everyone thinks about this. This deep in the tournament you still have a few inexperienced players, but after this many days and being in the money, there is no reason for this type of behavior. If this was indeed how it went down, this guy should have gotten a penalty. The only question I have is how far did Kenny Tran throw his cards? He is also lucky the dealer didn't grab his cards and muck them. And yes this is the same guy who didn't know who Scotty Nguyen was.

    <H3 id=no27505>Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran</H3>
    Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes , Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez calls. The turn card is the , and both players check. The river card is the , Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls.

    This is where it gets interesting.

    As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting.

    Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards.
  2. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 8:22pm) in reply to trixter23

    ya that was kinda shitty. A for effort though
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  3. trixter23 trixter23 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 8:53pm) in reply to ChuckSty

    haha why would u try it on a live pro and someone who is as seasoned as tran. way to go bud.
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  4. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 8:56pm) in reply to trixter23

    Because it worked and tran did muck his cards. Not that i agree with what he did in the slightest though.
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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 9:04pm) in reply to Fife19

    well we dont know if he threw them towards the dealer or just lifted his hadns off the cards or what..
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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 9:05pm) in reply to trixter23

    "Tosses his cards" "Lifts his hand off of his cards" Yeah, definitely the same thing.

    When playing live its standard practice to toss your cards into the same spot you initially had them as well.
  7. trixter23 trixter23 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 9:11pm) in reply to Fife19

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#eeeedd><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top> </TD><TD>Re(5): Angle Shoot on Kenny Tran?
    by Fife19 on 7/13/2007 20:05 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>"Tosses his cards" "Lifts his hand off of his cards" Yeah, definitely the same thing.

    When playing live its standard practice to toss your cards into the same spot you initially had them as well. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    are ya kiddin?
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  8. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2007 (7/13/2007 9:13pm) in reply to trixter23

    This is not a joking matter.
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