Duke may think she has earned some sort of credibility since she has become friends with Joe Navarro guiding her.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/workl....ap/index.html

"Owned by the same company you say?"

No. I say owned by the same company, day-to-day operations overseen by the same management, internal business processes (security, support, banking, etc.) combined and run by the same group of people.

My hope is both AP and UB slowly become extinct to join the group of sites too incompetent to make money even in the middle of a boom -- Paradise Poker, Planet Poker, JetSet Poker, etc. Hopefully the player base will continue to stagnate and dwindle away, so when they shut down, UB will be left with nothing but some micro-limit bots stealing each others blinds, and AP will run off in the middle of the night with the money of the few players still too stupid to continue to play there.

UB was once one of the first major poker sites, it had fallen to #9 when it was taken over by AP. After the law change AP was #3. Now combined, watch AP/UB continue to lose market share. LOL.

I like King Rube's idea of AP and UB becoming one site. That would create much less clutter on p5's. All of the fuck AP and UB threads could all be consolidated into one. fuck UB

LOL ANNIE DUKE

LOL AGAIN

I would not place any credibility into anything King Rube writes or states....

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re(1): Multiaccounting/collusion on UB
by MrQuietStrm on 11/2/2007 11:44 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Dear King Rube,

Plz diiiiie.

Sincerely,
MQS </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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His hands or the kind you eat?

I urge you to contact all the members of the Judiciary Committee and inform them of what happened at AP.

Annie Duke is sickly smart and a great representative.

Im Proud to have Annie Duke speaking on our behalf. If only 10% of poker players were as committed, through time and money spent and efforts and energy put into this cause, as Annie is to this fight, it wouldnt be a fight. Annie Duke isnt speaking tommorow as a rep of UB, she is speaking as a well known poker player representing all of us, and she will do an excellent job.

Guilt by association doesnt hold much water, and bash a site all you want, but when you call out peoples names and there reputations, there better be some concrete proof that the person was involved.

I'm sure that Congress will be satisfied that alert poker players will come down hard on sites that don't prevent minors from playing and that may participate in money laudering, etc Don't forget, the members belief that gambling is immoral and that these sites are run by shady characters. But hey, vigilant poker player can root out all things bad and make them right.

The AP situation, if good for anything, highlights the need for regulation and enforcement, not that players can catch cheaters and force the site to make things right.

All I am saying is that the AP situation is not something that anyone needs to make a big deal about because it is more a negative than a positive.

"I think a mass contact ofall judiciary committe members letting them know that even onlineplayers believe that poker site can do whatever they want withoutconsequence would clearly alleivate their concerns."

Its a start toward change. Do they know? I certainly hope so and will do everthing in my power to make sure they know before tomorrow's hearing. I want to see online poker run in the US not on the Kahnawake Tribal lands or the jungles of Costa Rica.

Edit:

Let me clarify. US citizens are going to play online poker one way or another. Online poker is "unregulated in the US". Lets bring it home. Lets make it clear "bad things" are going on with it now. Lets clean it up and keep those green backs :( in the USA.

The only thing wrong with Annie Duke being a spokesperson is that she can speak English faster than most Mexicans can speak Spanish. Whoa down, Annie.

King Rube, dude you're ingorant... poker doesn't need a poker player to represent poker in Washington.

Poker needs someone that the average person will get behind, have confidence in and that has demonstrated competence in the past.

Sorry to burst your little bubble... Annie Duke is not that person.

i urge u 2 contact all the members of the judiciary committee and inform of what happen at AP. as an aide 2 congress men fleece'em he's well aware of the AP scandal and totality disgusted by the whole affair. i can assure u he plans 2 ask some tuft questions at the hearing e.g why don't the major poker sites employ prostitutes so players can use thier fpp 2 have sex and instead of buying poker books etc. thats just 1 example of the hard hitting questions he will b asking. if u would like 2 make a political contribution 2 the congress men please send cash as it is a lot harder 2 trace. send 2 the pink pussy cat, combat zone,boston mass..att congress men fleece'em.

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