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  1. titantom32 titantom32 is offline

    Oshkosh, WI
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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:18pm)

    I just got to the table, about my 3rd hand. zero info on villain. Would anyone ever play the turn different? And do you call on the river? I have 20k left and theres 15k in the pot. Notice backdoor clubs came on river also.

    pokerstars Game #40465270565: Tournament #286020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (200/400) - 2010/02/28 14:33:54 ET
    Table '286020016 31' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: PrinceTendee (19070 in chips)
    Seat 2: Myhtos41 (9575 in chips)
    Seat 3: TheTownhouse (18710 in chips)
    Seat 4: The Pot SWE (34340 in chips)
    Seat 5: szatanityle (22033 in chips)
    Seat 6: annachung (14160 in chips)
    Seat 7: Titantom32 (28219 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joey Capp (7225 in chips)
    Seat 9: the_snail03 (47290 in chips)
    TheTownhouse: posts small blind 200
    The Pot SWE: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Titantom32 [Js Kh]
    szatanityle: folds
    annachung: folds
    Titantom32: raises 500 to 900
    Joey Capp: folds
    the_snail03: folds
    PrinceTendee: folds
    Myhtos41: folds
    TheTownhouse: folds
    The Pot SWE: calls 500
    *** FLOP *** [8d Jh Kc]
    The Pot SWE: checks
    Titantom32: bets 1100
    The Pot SWE: calls 1100
    *** TURN *** [8d Jh Kc] [9c]
    The Pot SWE: checks
    Titantom32: bets 2650
    The Pot SWE: raises 2950 to 5600
    Titantom32: calls 2950
    *** RIVER *** [8d Jh Kc 9c] [2c]
    The Pot SWE: bets 26740 and is all-in
    Titantom32:
      
  2. jirkman69 jirkman69 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:27pm) in reply to titantom32

    ugh this sucks

    stndrd till the river and it looks like you can get away, i would. Theres nothing he can be bluffing with unless he turned like AT or like 22-77 into a bluff but it couldnt be because the turn raise is so small signifying that he wants a call. He's either got QTo, QTcc, or QJcc, and it doesnt look like anything else given the size of the turn raise. Do you think any other hand is possible really?

    I guess you folded too so WP
  3. MarkFSU1 MarkFSU1 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:38pm) in reply to jirkman69

    I think i might check back turn just to control the pot, if he has QT which hes repping with his min raise, then the pot is small going to the river and we can call his small river bet and be ok with a gross hand and checking back underreps our hand and also lets him bluff the river with worse Ks and even like AJ, QJ, QQ, TT type of stuff or missed draws...we turn our hand into a bluff catcher by checking back but overrall i think it lets us play the hand with more control and more value over time
     
  4. stiverson530 stiverson530 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:40pm) in reply to MarkFSU1

    def check back turn, as played, ez fold on da riv
     
  5. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:45pm) in reply to stiverson530

    ugh..doubt you're good here from his line..I think I still fire turn also but I think you can fold river
  6. THE_ALPACA THE_ALPACA is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:50pm) in reply to MarkFSU1

    think i would check the turn it would be a tough spot if he check raises. And i would fold the river if i had no reads on him.
     
  7. jirkman69 jirkman69 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 4:58pm) in reply to THE_ALPACA

     
    Originally Posted by THE_ALPACA View Post

    think i would check the turn it would be a tough spot if he check raises. And i would fold the river if i had no reads on him.

    check turn really wtf have i been doing wrong. How can this be more profitable then betting when were losing value from KQ,JQ,TJ,AJ,AQ and prob some other shit?
  8. blizair blizair is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 5:14pm) in reply to titantom32

    ya im def never paying this off on the river
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  9. jirkman69 jirkman69 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 5:28pm) in reply to blizair

     
    Originally Posted by blizair View Post

    ya im def never paying this off on the river

    blair whats your turn play and what's it based on?
  10. metadonk metadonk is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2010 (3/1/2010 5:36pm) in reply to titantom32

    Wow im really surprised by the amount of people saying check behind here on the turn, the reason i say that is are you really willing to let a free A Q T fall on the river, i mean it is easy to say it might be the right play when the guy mini raises heros bet on the turn, but in a lot of cases your hand is best here and you should be trying to protect it and maximize value, as the hand played i think u have to puke fold the river, also i think a stronger bet on flop might be a good idea, metadonk
     
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