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any good players actually learned poker by themselves

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  1. ahh_snap ahh_snap is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:13am)

    just curious
  2. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:15am) in reply to ahh_snap

    Funny story about that, it all st.... Oh, you said good players. Moving along.
  3. WiserPenny WiserPenny is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:17am) in reply to ahh_snap

    i'm ok at sit n goes , cash games , and live play ...and i learned myself..... i'm not making 100k a year but i pay my bills ;)
  4. ahh_snap ahh_snap is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:17am) in reply to Fife19

    I'm just curious as to who learned by themselves in the tourney game and who learned from some 'mentor'...
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  5. bluechip2000 bluechip2000 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:17am) in reply to ahh_snap

    im kinda good? check prof.....i learned poker from some really bad players in college...then i unlearned what they taught me, and the have had only one other poker friendto learn with along the way... my college roomate, whom i shared the learning process with, ...point is ya no one taught me, and no one has ever had a piece of my action......

    i think its funny how many accounts at the end of this 2.5k thing are backed too prob.
  6. Andy McLEOD Andy McLEOD is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:19am) in reply to ahh_snap

    i think lilholdem learned from bill chen

    ok bad joke =)
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  7. iLLNuGWichee iLLNuGWichee is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:22am) in reply to ahh_snap

    i've never had a mentor unless you count PD weeeeeeeeeeee
     
  8. xxxgutsxxx xxxgutsxxx is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:26am) in reply to iLLNuGWichee

    I learned on my own. I dont know anyone that plays serious poker. So it is possible.
  9. bikocruz bikocruz is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:35am) in reply to ahh_snap

    I have never had a mentor...or for that matter anyone really to talk poker with which is pretty sad. Noone i grew up with plays:(. Let me tell ya...learned some expensive lessons that i could have easily avoided if I had someone to point me in the right direction. And I'm sure there are plenty more I'll run into w/o someone to show me the way.
    Why can't i beat 25/50nl??!! sfrigged
  10. ka$ino ka$ino is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:39am) in reply to ahh_snap

    I learned how to build a stack by myself and then turn it over to a really good pro only to donk it off for me. Not gonna name any names though
     
  11. Big Swing Big Swing is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:43am) in reply to bikocruz

    no real mentor.. but i suck soo
  12. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:43am) in reply to ahh_snap

    i used to pick JJ's garbage for any spare scraps of paper with anything remotely resembling calculations of "implied odds" or "ICM."

    unfortunately, my effort was sidetracked somewhat when i started basing my game around what I thought might be a solid foundation, but it ended up being just a tattered copy of one of grandma JJ's imfamously zesty recipes---a zucchini tortellini dish
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  13. Andy McLEOD Andy McLEOD is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:45am) in reply to Mr_BigQueso

    lol at mine and ill lol at yours.
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:47am) in reply to Fife19

    I learned from Fife19
  15. Annette_15 Annette_15 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:51am) in reply to ahh_snap

    I'm self taught.
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  16. apestyles apestyles is offline Moderator

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 4:51am) in reply to Andy McLEOD

    ^^^ lol @ this
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  17. acnownzu02 acnownzu02 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 5:17am) in reply to ahh_snap

    I don't know if I'd be considered a good player, but I'm starting to feel a lot better about my mtt results considering I've never had help from backers, teachers, people taking over my account, etc.

    Here's another question - how many unknown players on this site could have tremendous success if they were backed/taught by someone like JJ?
  18. d2themfi d2themfi is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 5:29am) in reply to ahh_snap

    self tought unless you count books and cardrunners
     
  19. virge virge is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 5:30am) in reply to acnownzu02

    Maybe I'm reading all this wrong, but ppl seem to be equating (among other practices) getting advice from other ppl as an unfair/unethical/vve practice akin too multiaccounting. wtf. Is that even a legitimate enough of a question to debunk? If you consider yourself a serious player and aren't getting advice then you should rethink how serious you really are. Everyone needs input.
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 5:43am) in reply to d2themfi

    Pretty much self taught.. not good though, very break-even-ish. In fact, I tend to lose to the rake.

    I've messaged local big named players that live in my area (DC METRO) and tried to bribe them with free food, drinks, and possibly bitches to teach me how to play MTT's--but it isn't working.

    The offer is still on the table.
  21. acnownzu02 acnownzu02 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 5:50am) in reply to virge

    I don't think anyone argues that it is unethical for one player to back, teach, or give advice to another.
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 6:05am) in reply to ahh_snap

    i learned from jus grindin, nvr read a poker book. But i must say and will admit, mike sexton n the wpt opened up my eyes a lil bit.
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 6:10am) in reply to Annette_15

    Self taught? Oh thats right Annette, I remember the pepsi all over the screen thingy..lmao (inside joke with me and her).. lol!!!!
  24. Matedog_88 Matedog_88 is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 6:34am) in reply to elusively

    i learned myself and is banking!!!!!!!
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 7:10am) in reply to ahh_snap

    I learned on my own, through trial and error, learning my own style. What really helped me when I was starting out is I had a poker buddy (who became one of my good friends) who was at the same skill level I was. We basically learned together, talking about the game every day and going over hands we played and situations we could think of that may come up in the future.
     
  26. PimpJzH PimpJzH is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 7:20am) in reply to GambleAB

    ^^is talkin about JJP SFobv
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 7:21am) in reply to Matedog_88

    good thing the title of the post wasn't...

    i'm drunk and would like to know if any good players actually learned grammar by themselves and not w/ the help of someone like jj, etc.
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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 7:25am) in reply to GambleAB

    Well, since I don't play the levels that annette, sctrojans, etc. play I don't know if anyone would consider me a good player... I've had my share of wins, top 3 finishes, and overall success for my limited playing.

    I won my first big tourny in October of 2005 on bodog after starting out there in July of 2005. I had no one to help me get to that point. I read Super System and railed ari and rusostreet frequently and learned by watching.

    Later that year in December I met iLLNugWichee on bodog and although I was already a winning player on the site, he pointed out to some flaws he saw in my game and that helped me even more.

    Now, does iLLNugWichee pointing out my flaws to me count as "mentor." I don't think so, but I seriously appreciated that he was the first person to ever do that for me. He is still the only person whom I really talk my own hands with at this stage b/c he knows my game better than amlost anyone.

    In the mean time though, I have "helped" other young players disect their play and improve as well. Giving back is important in any vocation, poker included.
  29. Choron Choron is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 7:58am) in reply to kle18

    I wish I had a mentor...LOL self-taught FTW baby...

    O yea who's Steve Paul Ambrose, Nenad Medic, Igotskillz, Broodogg Timex, Ch0ppy and Will Ma again? LOL...Waterloo is SUCH a sicko place for poker...
  30. spectrefax spectrefax is offline

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    Aug 19th, 2007 (8/19/2007 8:02am) in reply to jesterwords

    I still don't understand why you would want to freely 'give back' to a community that will eventually cut your profits down to due increased experience.

    Let the donks be donks.
     
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