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any way out of this?? thx for input

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  1. sharkusmanly sharkusmanly is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2006 (11/3/2006 5:13pm)

    rota had been extremely aggressive and i thought wulffman wouldve reraise pre with KK AA or QQ. i put him on 88-TT and he endedup haveing QQ

    Hand #36473979-54 at Fri2pm10K-Final (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
    Started at 03/Nov/06 18:04:45

    wulffman1 is at seat 1 with 38490.
    sharkusmanly is at seat 4 with 42560.
    rota3x is at seat 6 with 107800.
    stevie444 is at seat 8 with 38950.
    62baby is at seat 9 with 17200.
    The button is at seat 8.

    wulffman1 posts ante (150).
    sharkusmanly posts ante (150).
    rota3x posts ante (150).
    stevie444 posts ante (150).
    62baby posts ante (150).
    wulffman1 posts the small blind of 800.
    sharkusmanly posts the big blind of 1600.

    wulffman1: -- --
    sharkusmanly: Jd Jh
    rota3x: -- --
    stevie444: -- --
    62baby: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    rota3x raises to 6350. stevie444 folds. 62baby
    folds. wulffman1 calls. sharkusmanly calls.

    Flop (board: 7c 2c 2d):

    wulffman1 bets 19800. sharkusmanly goes all-in for
    36060. rota3x folds. wulffman1 goes all-in for
    31990. sharkusmanly is returned 4070 (uncalled).

    Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

    wulffman1 shows Qd Qh.
    sharkusmanly shows Jd Jh.

    Turn (board: 7c 2c 2d 3c):

    (no action in this round)

    River (board: 7c 2c 2d 3c 8s):

    (no action in this round)

    Showdown:

    wulffman1 has Qd Qh 2c 2d 8s: two pair, queens and deuces.
    sharkusmanly has Jd Jh 2c 2d 8s: two pair, jacks and deuces.

    Hand #36473979-54 Summary:

    No rake is taken for this hand.
    wulffman1 wins 83780 with two pair, queens and deuces.
     
  2. Bobncc98 Bobncc98 is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2006 (11/3/2006 5:28pm) in reply to sharkusmanly

    This is an extremely difficult situation ..And because you did not reraise preflop you do not have much information pertaining to what villain has.. It is also very situational and comes down to making a read and sticking to it...
  3. SerlinSteak19 SerlinSteak19 is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2006 (11/3/2006 5:57pm) in reply to sharkusmanly

    You have to re raise to see what kind of hand Wulffman called the raise with. If they both call or if you get re raised back you have to give up the hand. Nothing good comes from playing a 3 way pot with jacks.
  4. leafsrock leafsrock is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2006 (11/3/2006 6:35pm) in reply to SerlinSteak19

    I politely disagree. I think Wulf was setting you up to try a squeeze play which he would gladly have come over the top of. If he really believed Satos had a big hand he would not have led out with that bet after the flop. Good move checking the Js. After the flop - his bet represents over pair all the way. You beat 8s 9s 10s, tie Js lose to Qs, odds of Ks and As are low. From his perspective he is almost certain he is good since you would have raised with Ks and As. So now all he is doing is making any Ax( Satos) or AK (you) pay to draw out on him. To me this is a very close decision and I can fault you for calling or folding...
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