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Anyway I could have folded this????

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  1. Daalen Daalen is offline

    Sydney
    Australia

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    Aug 5th, 2007 (8/5/2007 5:26pm)

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    POKERSTARS GAME #11327318846: TOURNAMENT #56608926, $200+$15 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (150/300) - 2007/08/05 - 17:16:53 (ET)
    Table '56608926 743' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: dragon007222 (11800 in chips)
    Seat 2: CrUeLs (7350 in chips)
    Seat 3: T-Boof (8000 in chips)
    Seat 4: mezyoureyez (18608 in chips)
    Seat 5: Daalen (9200 in chips)
    Seat 6: fistsofgod (11842 in chips)
    Seat 7: stefcao (10175 in chips)
    Seat 8: LucaPagano (14425 in chips)
    Seat 9: triplecreame (7900 in chips)
    stefcao: posts small blind 150
    LucaPagano: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Daalen [As Ac]
    triplecreame: folds
    dragon007222: folds
    CrUeLs: folds
    T-Boof: folds
    mezyoureyez: folds
    Daalen: raises 600 to 900
    fistsofgod: folds
    stefcao: folds
    LucaPagano: calls 600
    *** FLOP *** [9s Th Qs]
    LucaPagano: checks
    Daalen: bets 1200
    LucaPagano: raises 1200 to 2400
    Daalen: raises 2700 to 5100
    LucaPagano: raises 8425 to 13525 and is all-in
    Daalen: calls 3200 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [9s Th Qs] [5c]
    *** RIVER *** [9s Th Qs 5c] [9c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    LucaPagano: shows [Kc Jc] (a straight, Nine to King)
    Daalen: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
    LucaPagano collected 18550 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 18550 | Rake 0
    Board [9s Th Qs 5c 9c]
    Seat 1: dragon007222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: CrUeLs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: T-Boof folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: mezyoureyez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Daalen showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
    Seat 6: fistsofgod (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: stefcao (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: LucaPagano (big blind) showed [Kc Jc] and won (18550) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 9: triplecreame folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. AceWPT AceWPT is offline

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    Aug 5th, 2007 (8/5/2007 6:14pm) in reply to Daalen

    Well first off this is a very bad flop for AA. There is such a wide range of hands here that will beat you, you should not have put it all in on the flop like that. His min raise on the flop is definitely this first factor you should have taken into consideration. He is not trying to get you off your hand by min raising, especially if hes a well known player who you know, knows the game very well. Its really hard when you see those nice looking aces to just push push push whatever flop comes out, but this is one flop that you should be very careful of. KJ, QQ, 1010, 99 all make that raise. KQ, AQ or any other pairs wont make a min raise like this, those hands would just call. Even though AA is the nuts preflop, im sure you know how easily it can get outdrawn. I would say that hes not tryin to bluff you out of the pot with AQ or KQ, so really the only hand you can beat here is KK which would have bet more than min on flop and probably would have reraised you preflop.

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  3. FoNZ87 FoNZ87 is offline

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    Aug 7th, 2007 (8/7/2007 2:20am) in reply to AceWPT

    def agree with 1st reply....that board is TERRRRRRRRRRIBLE for AA....that min raise should of set off alarm bells big time...i woulda flat called his raise...checked the turn...hope he checks and make a miracle boat on the river for free...otherwise im gettin the hell outta there. and you gotta think when he re pops all in after your re raise to 5100 there is nooo way ur overpair is good there on that board. and yeah even if you didnt show the full HH i would still be saying you gotta fold AA after you raise to 5100

    edit: lookin bak at original post i see your stack is 9000 so that would leave you with 4000(which isnt good)...i jus dont really like how you played this hand on the flop....wen he min raised you to 2400 there is no way ur re raise to 5100 is going to push him out. considering the texture of that flop i do not like your re raise to 5100 at all. i have no idea how much time you took throughout this hand but i would strongly consider to take your time in crucial spots..im not saying use your whole time bank or anything but you do have plenty of time to think things through before making a final decision.
  4. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Aug 7th, 2007 (8/7/2007 3:08am) in reply to Daalen

    Surely the min-raise was ringing some alarm bells on a flop that is absolutely horrible for AA? After that, i would certainly be looking to just call and re-evaluate on the turn.
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