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Joined: Jul 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:17pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
AP should either stand up or go out of business. they will drop so far down on everyones radar once this fully hits.
i dont know why anyone would want money on this site now. i definitely would not keep a lot on there.
I wonder how many of the other sites have situations like this....
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Joined: Jul 06Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:18pm) in reply to basspoet
i hope that any players that think AP will ever admit that something happened realize the reason that they are denying it. there is obviously only one possible reason for them to continue denying this after all the evidence that has been found, and that is because someone very high up at AP is involved and others very high up knew about it. that site should be shut down and with online poker not being regulated the only way for this to happen is for all the high level players to remove their money from the site. i also agree that the same should happen at UB because you are now dealing with the same management. you know how the saying goes, "once a cheat always a cheat", and i guarantee you that the same problems will arise at UB somewhere down the line if these people remain in control and people continue to play on that site.
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Joined: Jan 07Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:19pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
So Im guessing the 1K tourny on AP will have like 10 people in it now instead of 100.
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Joined: Jun 06Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:27pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
I just love how AP says there isn't a way for them (their support team, whatever) to see everyone's cards. They want peoeple to believe they don't have the ability to do that? How would they be able tocatch people who are colluding? That's just stupid...
This just shows not only do they have these super account, but they also flat out lied in their response to the situation...
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TheWacoKidd
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Joined: Oct 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:36pm) in reply to mapunk
yea when I read their response I almost puked, it is what actually triggered Marco to go back thru these HHs... just an outright lie by them.... yea they can't see the hole cards but they can email them out to their players lololol
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TheWacoKidd
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Joined: Dec 06Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:46pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
pretty obvious to me anybody with any money on AP should get their money out ASAP. If the site goes down, I think your money will go with them.
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Joined: Aug 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:49pm) in reply to andrechiu
oh boy...
TY Waco
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Joined: Aug 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:49pm) in reply to andrechiu
it was pretty obvious weeks ago, this full hh is just the final nail in the coffin though
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Joined: Aug 07Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:51pm) in reply to 36crazyfists
once this replayer gets posted 100s if not 1000s of ppl are gonna be withdrawing
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Joined: May 07Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:54pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
thank god I made a withdrawal from there couple months ago, b4 all this shit started, and when it comes to AP support, only an idiot would believe them. gj guys
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Joined: May 07Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 9:55pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
when can we expect the HH
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Joined: Sep 06Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 10:01pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
time to get my money off AP lol, damn. i was going to win the 30r their tonight, guess i'll have to win the UB 30r instead
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Not for awhile. We probably won't be able to get the entire table (in pxf), but I'm trying my best. It's hard as hell to sort through the format, and we'll probably end up posting individual hands or something.
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Joined: Apr 06Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 10:04pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
fwiw i've seen a hand history sent from stars before with everyone's hole cards
it was way after the tourney happened, when it was archived or whatever, but it had everyone's cards visible
edit: i have no doubt AP has a superuser account thing, and the HH proves it, but the existence of the HH w/ everyone's cards listed doesn't necessarily prove it. nawmsayin? -
i agree, you cant jump to any conclusions yet.
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TheWacoKidd
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TheWacoKidd
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Joined: Oct 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 10:09pm) in reply to donkkkkk
donkkkkk, spare me... plz have a little faith in me and Marco, AJunglen, adanthar, Action Jeff etc...
THERE IS 100% NO DOUBT AFTER SEEING POTRIPPER's CARDS THAT HE COULD SEE HIS OPPONENTS HOLE CARDS... period
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Ive playd in 1 mtt in my life on absolute and it happened to be the tournament in question. Potripper was at my table and I remember playing several hands with him and Im pretty sure I lost almost everyone. He eventually knocked me out. I would def be interested in seeing this replay in the PXF replayer. There is no doubt in my mind he cheated but I would still love to see the crazy hands again.
These are a few of the hands I have
POKERME420 - Raises $200 to $200
DZ00NUTS - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $200
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $175
POTR0AST - Folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 6d 3s]
POTRIPPER - Checks
POKERME420 - Bets $250
KOOLKEITH13 - Raises $850 to $850
POTRIPPER - Raises $5700 to $5700
POKERME420 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
OBV_DONK - Folds
and
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $600
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $500
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 8c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $400
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $400
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $400
*** TURN *** [Ah Ac 8c] [3c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1800
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $1800
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Ac 8c 3c] [Kd]
POTRIPPER - Bets $2999
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $2999
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ks Qd] (Two Pair, aces and kings)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KOOLKEITH13 - Mucks
POTRIPPER Collects $12958 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($12958)
Seat 1: BIGREDAK86 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Board [Ah Ac 8c 3c Kd]
Seat 2: OBV_DONK Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: POTRIPPER won Total ($12958) HI:($12958) with Two Pair, aces and kings
Seat 8: KOOLKEITH13 (dealer) HI: [Mucked] [9s 9d]
EDIT----I WON A HAND!
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $450
*** FLOP *** [3s As 10s]
KOOLKEITH13 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $750
KOOLKEITH13 - Raises $2100 to $2100
POTRIPPER - Calls $1350
*** TURN *** [3s As 10s] [Qd]
KOOLKEITH13 - All-In $2554
POTRIPPER - Calls $2554
*** SHOW DOWN ***
*** RIVER *** [3s As 10s Qd] [Qc]
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ah 2c] (Two Pair, aces and queens)
KOOLKEITH13 - Shows [Jd Qs] (Three of a kind, queens) -
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Let me know if you need help parsing it man. I should be able to whip up a script that can parse the file and output it into a format that pxf will recognize.
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TheWacoKidd
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</TD><TD>Re(2): reserved for AP 1k HH... damning evidence that AP was compromised
by tmacckk on 10/13/2007 19:18 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>i hope that any players that think AP will ever admit that something happened realize the reason that they are denying it. there is obviously only one possible reason for them to continue denying this after all the evidence that has been found, and that is because someone very high up at AP is involved and others very high up knew about it. that site should be shut down and with online poker not being regulated the only way for this to happen is for all the high level players to remove their money from the site. i also agree that the same should happen at UB because you are now dealing with the same management. you know how the saying goes, "once a cheat always a cheat", and i guarantee you that the same problems will arise at UB somewhere down the line if these people remain in control and people continue to play on that site. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>This is so off the mark. AP would deny it no matter what. MAYBE there is someone high up involved but to just blanket that as to why they would cover up is silly. The integrity of their software, and ultimately their business is at stake. Coming clean would do nothing but tank the company. -
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Joined: Aug 05Oct 13th, 2007 (10/13/2007 10:18pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd
yea. You said it was an excel file right? I should be able to just extract that to a more parser friendly format ie. csv. I would have to know the format that the replayer expects tho. PM me if ur interested man.
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